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Everyone uses. People are pissy about Jon because he beat their favorite fighters.
Of course there are.
1. Someone put something in his food.
2. The cocaine he sniffed had creatine from China that contained roids.
He can be sleezy but taking PED's is something I don't believe he would take. The dude has freak genetics already, if he took steroids he would be fighting at Heavyweight and be jacked to the gills.
That's the bad thing about Rogan. He sounds and speaks like a very measured and assertive guy, with great vocabulary and articulation in his words, but he makes weak arguments and flip-flops on a daily basis. Most recent example is him saying how stupid the post-fight brawl was and how shocking it all was, then goes on his podcast and says people were being ridiculous to act surprised that it happened, making his own original argument seem pretty dumb and at the same time, propping himself up for having a better understanding than us casuals.I honestly think that a decent amount of Jon Jones defenders are just repeating Rogan's hilariously pathetic explanations of Jones.
Everyone uses. People are pissy about Jon because he beat their favorite fighters.
Please no posts of the below types
as this is not what the thread about and just about any time this topic gets brought up I see a ton of unrelated posts such as:
1.)Who cares/I think everyone takes steroids.
2.)It doesn't matter to me, it's not why he won, he's the GOAT, etc
he only ever failed two tests for banned substance - one was for estrogen blockers (not a steroid) and the second was for trace amounts of an oral steroid.
nobody is denying that jones got flagged for that
but jones never took steroids knowingly and USADA has cleared him of that
all the 'evidence' you present is highly contestable: testimony from a liar and felon chael sonnen about him hiding under an octagon, you really believe that? lol
and you're also drawing conclusions based on what other people have done, which is fallacious. if your mom murders are you all of a sudden a murder? no, so why does it matter what his brothers and some guy he trained with did?
jon goat jones innocent
There are people in here that thinks pro athletes are natural.
Notes for the thread:
Please no posts of the below types, as this is not what the thread about and just about any time this topic gets brought up I see a ton of unrelated posts such as:
1.)Who cares/I think everyone takes steroids.
2.)It doesn't matter to me, it's not why he won, he's the GOAT, etc
It's fine if you think either of the above - but this thread is ONLY to explore how the hell anyone can believe Jon Jones at this point.
That was his defense at his hearing for his 14th offense: "Look at my life man... I've fucked it all up... proper. It's drained me.... I lost everything. To be honest, the coco alone has me trying to find hours in the day.... the idea that I could also have time and energy to stick needles in my ass is honestly insulting and ridiculous at the same time. My nose is dirty, but I promise you my ass is clean. You obviously don't know how much work taking steroids is, but TRUST ME - I KNOW - it's a lot of work. And I definitely didn't have the energy to do it... Just thinking about it makes me need a line and time to recline, maybe get a little hooker action... shit, where are my car keys?"Jones was too busy fucking everything else up to take PEDs