Serious question about Tony vs Khabib

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Where does the khabib having no cardio myth come from. He has shown to be still very strong at the end of everyone of his fights, and yet people question his 5 rd ability. I just am curious why people question championship rd khabib time?
 
I think it's more that Tony has maybe the best cardio in the UFC, and that we've never seen Khabib in a 5 round fight. He also cuts a ton of weight to make 155.

But yeah, Khabib's cardio has looked just fine in the past, I don't foresee any issues either.
 
No clue. It'll be interesting to see how he does in the championship rounds though,if it goes there. Especially if he's still doing dangerous weight cut.
 
I think it comes from Tony being proven to have amazing cardio. Tony went 5 hard rounds with RDA in Mexico City and wasn't even breathing hard where Khabib has struggled with his weight cut before and that can often lead to a fighter gassing late in the fight. I haven't seen Khabib gas but I've seen him slow down a bit as the fight has gone on and we've never seen him go a full 5. I don't think it's fair to say he will gas, but it's fair to consider it a possibility where we know it won't be for Tony

That said, I'm picking Khabib in the fight. Even if he does slow down I think he'll dominate enough early that he'll have a lead on points and that Tony will be so damaged that it will even out the possibility of a cardio edge
 
Common sense dictates that Tony will be the superior fighter in 4 and 5. But you're right, we don't actually know for sure.
 
There isn't a Khabib cardio issues myth. People have just never seen him go 5 rounds. And since Tony is a known cardio monster, the popular opinion is that Tony will outlast Khabib.
 
Truth is, none of us know, as we have never seen Khabib in a 5 round fight.

I think his cardio looks good, but he has never gone 5 rounds.

Hopefully we get a nice 5 round war, and those questions are finally answered.
 
never fought 5 round before, could have no experience how to pace him self full 5 rounds
 
I’m more curious to see what Tony looks like in round 5 if Khabib beats on him for 4 full rounds.

Way too many assumptions being made about this fight with zero basis of fact involved. There are as many questions about Tony as there are for Khabib.
 
A lot of MMA fans are so used to C-level athletes that they stand in awe whenever someone can go 25 minutes without gassing.
 
It isn't that we question Khabib's stamina. But his style is very taxing and energy consuming. We're also not just comparing Khabib's cardio to any old MMA fighter. If that were the case, we'd all be saying he has no issues in that department.

But it's Tony Ferguson that Khabib is fighting, and any slight discrepancy in cardio will be ruthlessly exploited by Ferguson given the chance.
 
Where does the khabib having no cardio myth come from. He has shown to be still very strong at the end of everyone of his fights, and yet people question his 5 rd ability. I just am curious why people question championship rd khabib time?

Probably mostly wishful thanking on the part of khabib haters/fergus adherents. Even they acknowledge that one of tony's only ways to win is if the eagle gasses.

There isn't a Khabib cardio issues myth. People have just never seen him go 5 rounds. And since Tony is a known cardio monster, the popular opinion is that Tony will outlast Khabib.

Except tony's cardio really hasn't been tested that much. We've seen many fighters look like they can fight all day when they do 5 rounds of just striking; those same fighters then collapse when going a couple of rounds of mostly grappling exchanges. The 3 round maulings khabib gave his opponents were much more cardio intensive than tony's 5 round striking match vs dos anjos.
 
Because we never seen him in those championship rounds.also tony gets stronger the longer the fight goes where khabib has not completely gassed by the end of the 3rd but he is noticeably slower and his gnp not nearly as damaging.tony should have the advantage if it goes to the 4th and 5th....if the fight actually happens this time.
 
Probably mostly wishful thanking on the part of khabib haters/fergus adherents. Even they acknowledge that one of tony's only ways to win is if the eagle gasses.



Except tony's cardio really hasn't been tested that much. We've seen many fighters look like they can fight all day when they do 5 rounds of just striking; those same fighters then collapse when going a couple of rounds of mostly grappling exchanges. The 3 round maulings khabib gave his opponents were much more cardio intensive than tony's 5 round striking match vs dos anjos.
Like I said, it's just the popular opinion. I personally don't agree with it. Just explaining that perspective.
 
Where does the khabib having no cardio myth come from. He has shown to be still very strong at the end of everyone of his fights, and yet people question his 5 rd ability. I just am curious why people question championship rd khabib time?

it comes from so many of the conor lovers just hatin on khabib.
 
I'm quite surprised I don't see khabib's comments after the barboza fight turn up on here more often. He said he could have probably finished the fight if he so chose but wanted to fight the full fifteen and then said he'd go again in an hour with Tony or conor lol

I think his cardio is fine, although cucay's is proven to be exceptional. I favour khabib in this match up but it should be one hell of a fight as Ferg is an absolute monster in his own rights.

Its a masochist's dream
I can't wait
Now let's all just pray to the just bleed gods that it finally fucking happens.
 
Khabib definitely slowed down as his fight w Tibau went on. I agree w those who say he lost the fight, actually. But that was six years ago against a very big, strong opponent. I don't think Ferguson will have such an advantage.
 
Khabib definitely slowed down as his fight w Tibau went on. I agree w those who say he lost the fight, actually. But that was six years ago against a very big, strong opponent. I don't think Ferguson will have such an advantage.

He also slowed vs RDA and even Barboza. He was out of breath in his post fight interview vs Barboza. Not gassed, but visibly tires for sure. And he controlled the entire fight.

The thing is, I don't think anyone (me included) thinks Khabib has a BAD gas tank. It's the combination of this being a 5 rounder, Khabib having had weight cut issues in the past, and Tony historically upping his pressure and output as fights go on.

Despite what @Kirin is claiming, Tony applying that kind of pressure at elevation in Mexico City (where even little guys were gassing in mainly striking fights) IS a good example of his elite cardio. He spent stretches defending off his back vs Lee for 2 rounds and was talking shit to Lee to start rd 3. Looked as fresh as when the fight started.
 
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