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Serious Question about punches to the back of the head

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by onemanshow83, Jul 24, 2021.

  1. onemanshow83 Blue Belt

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    I remember back in the day during the brock lesnar and frank mir fight. They were serious about punches in the back of the head. Now it seems like they are permitted. I even remember the Jones vs Cormier 2 fight Jones landed a couple of punches to the back of the head. So my question is that are they permitted now????
     
  2. Venom Lurker since '09

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    They aren't permitted so much as excused in very close 50-50 cases especially toward the end of a fight, during a flurry, for instance you would expect some punches to land uncleanly behind the head or neck depending on how the receiver is defending and turning his head and it's not always easy to see in those circumstances.
     
  3. Orochimaru 大蛇丸 Silver Belt Platinum Member

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    No lol, we would see a lot more back mounts with elbows to the back of the head
     
  4. Horsen A. Round White Belt

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    Exactly it's kind of hard to punish a guy for a hit to the back of the head when a guy is twisting and turning on the ground.
     
  5. Cauliflower Ear Banned Banned

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    Wasn't Brock's punch to Randy round the back of the head as well?
     
  6. MeagoR Yellow Belt

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    Yes, so was Conor's downward Punch to Dustin in the 1 go around.
     
  7. Doctor Stoppage Finishing Fights via Disappointment Platinum Member

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    Incidental hits to the back of the head when the opponent receiving the strikes is twisting his neck, switching positions, etc. is different than when an opponent is not moving his head and strikes are being delivered to the back of the head (likely intentional)
     
  8. ShreddinMMA Gold Belt

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    Mir/Lesnar 1 was a pretty BS call on them. I recall Mir practically turning into them, hardly seemed intentional. That was also Steve Mazzagatti, one of the most questionable refs to work in the UFC.

    They've been under called throughout MMA history IMO, like most penalties are.
     
  9. Cauliflower Ear Banned Banned

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    Conor cheating, nothing new or old
     
  10. Pierced7681 Red Belt

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    Anyone remember Sakara ktfoing Patrick Cote with back of the head shots and getting dqd? Lol
     
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    They aren't permitted, but it seems more the ref just stops it happening if they see it rather than dock points. You see the refs clearly saying "watch back of the head" regularly.
     
  12. El Fernas Gold Belt

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    Refs are worst, rules have not changed, but since they have "clarified" what it is and what its not, then everything its not, basically.
     
  13. onemanshow83 Blue Belt

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    I appreciate you guys answering my question.
     
  14. Mohawk Banditó Black Belt

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    They're against the rules, but refs let them go because that would mean doing their job.
     
  15. Pierced7681 Red Belt

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    what happened is originally refs were using the “headphones” rule for back of the head shots, but then they started going with the “Mohawk” rule which has a lot more leeway.
     

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