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The latest Star Wars might literally be the least rewatchable movie I've ever seen. On the first rewatch, yes, I enjoyed it more than the original viewing. On 2 subsequent attempts, I never made it through the movie because I just couldn't watch it. That never happens with an actually good movie. The whole thing was a gimmick really. Not quality.
 
The latest Star Wars might literally be the least rewatchable movie I've ever seen. On the first rewatch, yes, I enjoyed it more than the original viewing. On 2 subsequent attempts, I never made it through the movie because I just couldn't watch it. That never happens with an actually good movie. The whole thing was a gimmick really. Not quality.

Building upon this, TFA just felt so... unsinspiring. One of the things that made the original trilogy so beloved was that it inspired awe in the viewer. It was bold and groundbreaking. It built upon old sci-fi adventure serials but launched them into an entirely diffrent style and atmosphere. Kind of like what Sergio Leone's Dollars Trilogy did for the Westerns -- giving an old genre an revolutionary new style and tone. TFA awakens was the ultimate template-movie. It followed all the safe beats and didn't try to flex its muscle. Which may create a good popcorn-snack but doesn't inspire awe or revolutionize the medium, it makes it feel... gimmicky.

There certainly was great things about TFA though -- like the facist iconography that the gave The Empire. Or the more realistic swordfighting techniques. But that's canceled out by the poor pacing and abysmal attempt at drama (that scene where the officer holds a Nazi-Speech as the Death-Star obliterates all those planets is just a super-lame attempt at making us care about something we have ZERO investment in).
 
Enjoyed The Jungle Book. Got a lot of stuff right, straight out of the action playbook. And I still can't believe they managed talking jungle animals. How the fuck? Saw it again just because it's all I could focus on the first time. Also jealous of little-ass Mowgli's hair. I'm brown and when I grow it it never looks that good. Little shit.

Dheepan was interesting. From the guy did The Prophet. But need to see it again to understand where it is coming from.

Also wondering if any The Iron Giant fans caught a screening of the Signature Edition? There's an added dream sequence, but besides that the print is super. Blu-ray out in some time.

High-Rise was cool. Watch it Henryflower, if you're around.

Lastly, I agree with all of you about The Force Awakens: I've given up on having an actual opinion about it.
 
Also jealous of little-ass Mowgli's hair. I'm brown and when I grow it it never looks that good. Little shit.

Yeah... Well... At least you grew up and can still grow hair, buddy. Mowgli glorious mane is a mockery to all of us who started balding when they turned twenty. Little shit.
 
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Someone needs to get this thread poppin again. Y'all waiting for me to do it?
 
I need a new anime to watch. Something along the lines of Death Note.

Or hell, a video game. Something to keep me stimulated until the new Drake CD drops.
 
I need a new anime to watch. Something along the lines of Death Note.

Or hell, a video game. Something to keep me stimulated until the new Drake CD drops.

Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood?

Wait.. was this post some kind of joke I'm missing?
 
I've been on a Silent-Era bender lately. As I at this moment simply can't watch any more voiceless films - I'll just drop my silent-era mega-post here for now. So, yeah, only silent films.

I've pretty much loved every Fritz Lang film I've seen. Even commonly reviled stuff like the two Indian Tomb movies I through were splendidly crafted adventure yarns. That said... I honestly just couldn't get into Dr. Mabuse - The Gambler. I didn't hate it -- it was a good film, but it just didn't grip me like his other flicks did. The essential issue was simply the pacing. It was to overlong and languid, even for the silent era. Some of the expressionist imagery and the nearly magical talents of Dr. Mabuse definitely are the peaks of the movie. But they where to scattered to make a difference in the end (It's basically Cabiria-syndrome only worse).


I also watched Douglas Fairbanks Robin Hood. Honestly, I probably think it better than the Errol Flynn one. The Flynn one is definitely superior in its iconic first third, but it definitely flatlines a bit after that. The Fairbanks version keeps a high-quality throughout. I think the deciding factor is just the grandness of the set-design, and the beautiful shot-composition that follows alongside it. It kinda felt like a King Vidor film in this respect, as if the grandness of the surroundings become a character in-and-of-itself. The narrative is rather strange though, eschewing the traditional Robin Hood plotline. Fairbanks doesn't even become Hood until half-way in!

I also saw Fairbanks The Mask of Zorro. It was pretty fun, nowhere near Robin Hood obviously. It's hispanic iconography serves it well, as it's abundance of detail and sharp style appears rather striking on the silent screen. Fairbanks animated take on Zorro is especially fun -- and the ending where his secret identity is smashed ends the film at a great climax.


Faust was absolutely dream-inspiringly awesome. Talk about sinking you into another world! Never have I seen devils and angels be personified so strikingly before. The expressionistic set-design and style was perfect for making this come to life -- making the real world fuse seamlessly with the metaphysical, heaven-and-hell mythology that the movie is based upon. In this way it reminds me a bit of Metropolis, which also achieved perfection in its distinct world-building. And the human story about Faust and the woman he loves is very engaging too. I'd rank Faust right up there with Nosferatu, and truth be told, Faust is much more consistent since Nosferatu gets pretty uneven once the vampire sets foot in Deutschland. (F.W Murnau's earlier film The Haunted Castle was really bad though, a mystery film with a boring mystery, with only one dream-scene horror-moment to enliven the movie).


I rewatched Dr Caligari. Honestly, as far as Robert Weine's filmography goes, Genuine > Caligari. Yes Caligari is groundbreaking and the height of artsyness and all that, but Genuine's story is just more intresting and its expressionistic eroticism more impactful. Also, if you love expressionist mindfuckery, then you can't do better than From Morn to Midnight by Georg Kaiser, released the same year as these two films. It's expressionism cranked up to eleven.

And yes, I rewatched Caligari just to figure out if I like Genuine more!


I saw a bunch of other silent films. Mostly westerns and Italian historical epics. John Fords Straight Shooting had some really cool visuals during the gunfighting -- that would herald his later films like Stagecoach. Hell Hinges was the surprising gem though. It's about an amoral gunfighter that arrives to a seedy town, where the only decent community is a small congregation living amidst all the debauchery. William Hart gives an great, physical performance with a lot of magnetism to it. The action is very well done -- with the whole city being burned down. And lastly the religious conversion that the main character undergoes is communicated through some great visuals that really makes it feel like an existential, emotional conversion rather than a simple plotpoint.
 
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I don't think anyone got my "this place needs a good throwdown/should i watch an artsy fartsy movie" joke.
 
Just watched A Field in England, which I thought was very interesting, albeit also quite bizarre and low-budget, you could say it was something like an 'acid historical'.. A film set during the English civil war but that really had very little to do with the war really, other than that the characters were deserters and it formed the general backdrop. The film takes place entirely in, you guessed it, a field in England where four guys end up tripping balls on magic mushrooms and going mad while an Irishman who may or may not be the devil forces them to dig for a treasure, more stuff to it than that but that's the bare bones. It's not exactly clear what the hell is going on a lot of the time anyway, but it was interesting... I think the psychedelic sequences and the visuals were the best part of the film.
 
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