scientists discover new homo

[Slick_36]

It's definitely interesting. It's also interesting to wonder about what interbreeding might have happened way down the line of our lineage. And like you said, all the various subspecies that may have existed. Just looking at primates it's awesome to see how similar they are to us, it's crazy to think of how other hominids were living and interacting with all of their surroundings.

Lol I've been watching gorilla videos recently and it's such a trip how close they are to us, and that that we had much closer relatives.

Knowing how disasters of the past have brought species to the brink of extinction throughout history, I'd guess the most likely scenario for the Neanderthals going extinct and us moving forward had to do with a larger number of us being in the right place at the right time.

As a corollary to this idea, we know that North America lost 80% of it's large mammal species at the end of the last ice age. We know Asia lost about 50% or around about there...and then comes the interesting part...Africa, specifically the rift valley region (and Central Africa), lost only 10% of it's mammals OVER 100 lbs in body weight. What does that tell us?

Whatever happened to cause the greatest extinction event in the time that modern homo sapien sapien human has existed on this planet happened specifically and with great severity in North America, with trailing effects then hitting South America, Asia and Africa in that order regarding severity.

It's pretty clear it was fragments of a disintegrating comet specifically that probably directly impacted the ice sheets over north america (it's actually seeming like this happened 2 times within a 1000 years which is scary and shows it was likely the same material passing again the second time, a second pass) but that's the thing...Animals in Africa weren't directly in the vacinity and North American animals were...blind luck. Shit, we had bigger lions than Africa, we had a short faced bear which was probably the apex land predator in the world, all kinds of coolness stolen from us. Now Africa thinks it's hot shit...jk.

Anyway, I digress...I'd say it's likely that the same sort of thing happened with Humans and Neanderthals.

Exactly. It reminds me a lot of Guns, Germs, and Steel. A lot of people's success in history has been entirely circumstantial and just being in the right or wrong place can mean everything.

 

[Merlotte's]

Doesn't hold up to the whole Adam and Eve thing but if these idiots want to keep digging holes for fun they're welcome to it.

 

[Slick_36]

Doesn't hold up to the whole Adam and Eve thing but if these idiots want to keep digging holes for fun they're welcome to it.

I've wondered if Adam and Eve were just two of the first humans in the line that continues today, the Bible seems to be a Genealogy as much as if not more so than anything. Adam's purpose of giving the animals a name really seem to parallel man's purpose of naming everything they can observe. I don't just mean that in a literal sense of naming objects, but defining the universe as a whole. To give something a name is to know it, it's to understand it. Another thing is Eden was in the valley of Kush as described in the Bible, that's modern day Ethiopia, the same place that scientists have determined as the cradle of humanity.

 

[platfox]

Jeez everyone is a homo nowadays. It's not a big deal anymore. No need to hold a press conference every time just to announce a new homo. 😏

 

[anthony stark]

You posted this because you wanted to use that title.

this

 

[andnowweknow]

I've wondered if Adam and Eve were just two of the first humans in the line that continues today, the Bible seems to be a Genealogy as much as if not more so than anything. Adam's purpose of giving the animals a name really seem to parallel man's purpose of naming everything they can observe. I don't just mean that in a literal sense of naming objects, but defining the universe as a whole. To give something a name is to know it, it's to understand it. Another thing is Eden was in the valley of Kush as described in the Bible, that's modern day Ethiopia, the same place that scientists have determined as the cradle of humanity.

Adam and Eve is just a story about the RE-birth of humanity out of the wreckage of the anti-deluvian (pre flood) world. I doubt it was ever meant as a literal narrative, but more one that was symbolic and that would resonate and could be passed on orally.

GENESIS 1:28 - And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

I'd also bring attention to "subdue it"...the bible is very clear that what is being talked about is not the primeval "first time" of humanity, but a subsequent "creation"...I translate this as, "hey guys, the world just got fucked sideways...time to start over again"...

So to your point, yes, Adam and Eve, while not actually a reference to two specific people, is likely a reference to the small amount of people who were left and from whom we have all descended.

 

[Slick_36]

Adam and Eve is just a story about the RE-birth of humanity out of the wreckage of the anti-deluvian (pre flood) world. I doubt it was ever meant as a literal narrative, but more one that was symbolic and that would resonate and could be passed on orally.

GENESIS 1:28 - And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

I'd also bring attention to "subdue it"...the bible is very clear that what is being talked about is not the primeval "first time" of humanity, but a subsequent "creation"...I translate this as, "hey guys, the world just got fucked sideways...time to start over again"...

So to your point, yes, Adam and Eve, while not actually a reference to two specific people, is likely a reference to the small amount of people who were left and from whom we have all descended.

So you think Adam and Eve is another version of the story of Noah? I can accept that, it's an interesting idea. Why not both? Or neither, it's not like we can know for sure lol.

 

[andnowweknow]

So you think Adam and Eve is another version of the story of Noah? I can accept that, it's an interesting idea. Why not both? Or neither, it's not like we can know for sure lol.

I don't think it's another version of it, but I don't see the bible as some totally disjointed narrative. I mean, it clearly says "replenish the earth and subdue it"...that says to me it's time to fuck like rabbits to bring the population back to viability and that it's necessary to get the reigns back on nature and start runnin' shit again. "replenish" to me, whatever story it's in reference to, doesn't say "this is the first time". It's interesting because certain versions of the bible have changed this original translation to suggest an original time of creation...you can guess which sects would do that...young earthers and other hardline creationist/literalists.

We take for granted these days how calm our life is given we have basically separated ourselves through environmental modification from the wildness of this planet. The first thing to do in the event of catastrophe, if your goal is to bring humanity back to the pinnacle of species on the earth, is to start the process of getting nature under control again...without that, it's basically just chaos and human beings are simply not equipped for chaotic war with nature.

 

[Michaelangelo]

Ripskater is probably beating his wife right now

nah he probably thinks the fossil was a just a deformed midget

 

[Guestx]

ripskater has proven to be a simpleton over and over. I don't know why anyone gives serious replies to what he posts.

I'm pretty sure he's a troll trying to play the stereotypical dumb Christian, but he may be genuine, I know plenty like him in real life. There's just something about him that seems off.

I think he just has his own beliefs. He's not hurting anyone so why fuck with him about it?

 

[biscuitsbrah]

I think he just has his own beliefs. He's not hurting anyone so why fuck with him about it?

Contrary to popular belief, beliefs like that hurt the human race as a whole. When someone in society does something out of the norm, others will look down or chastise to discourage that behavior. It's how you learn and grow brah

 

[windkick]

I've wondered if Adam and Eve were just two of the first humans in the line that continues today, the Bible seems to be a Genealogy as much as if not more so than anything. Adam's purpose of giving the animals a name really seem to parallel man's purpose of naming everything they can observe. I don't just mean that in a literal sense of naming objects, but defining the universe as a whole. To give something a name is to know it, it's to understand it. Another thing is Eden was in the valley of Kush as described in the Bible, that's modern day Ethiopia, the same place that scientists have determined as the cradle of humanity.

I believe Adam translates to "Man". Not Adam, as in a person named Adam.

That book was poorly translated, and to top it off has been edited many times over throughout history.

It's still a good story to read if one has the spare time.

 

[Guestx]

Contrary to popular belief, beliefs like that hurt the human race as a whole. When someone in society does something out of the norm, others will look down or chastise to discourage that behavior. It's how you learn and grow brah

I guess that's just it, I don't think it hurts the human race at all. In fact, the older I get, the more I feel like living a "simpler" life is better. I also think that certain types of knowledge don't really advance us in any way as a culture.

Take this particular discovery, for instance. If the conclusions are correct, is it going to help you go out and live more successfully today? Probably not. At best it will just be something that made your day a little more interesting than it was before.

 

[andnowweknow]

I believe Adam translates to "Man". Not Adam, as in a person named Adam.

That book was poorly translated, and to top it off has been edited many times over throughout history.

It's still a good story to read if one has the spare time.

Adam (Hebrew: אָדָ&#1501 as a proper name, predates its generic use in Semitic languages. Its earliest known use as a genuine name in historicity is Adamu, as recorded in the Assyrian King List.[2] Its use as a common word in the Hebrew language is ׳āḏām, meaning "human". Coupled with the definite article, it becomes "the human".[3]

 

[Mcmoon]

Here is how ridiculous it's gotten. Neanderthal has been known to have a larger brain size that modern humans for a great while, yet many in the scientific community and lay community as a whole still hold on to the old idea that they were somehow a really dumb version of us with the only real reasoning being that they died and we did not.

As far as I know brain size doesn't exactly equal intelligence. Even if you account with the ratio to body to brain size humans still do not have the highest ratio.

 

[Mpower]

 

[Winnie The Foo]

As far as I know brain size doesn't exactly equal intelligence. Even if you account with the ratio to body to brain size humans still do not have the highest ratio.

Yea, I think dolphin brains are around the same size as human's.

 

[andnowweknow]

As far as I know brain size doesn't exactly equal intelligence. Even if you account with the ratio to body to brain size humans still do not have the highest ratio.

you'd have to define "intelligence"...In some instances certain animals have more "intelligence" than human beings. They just can't manipulate their environment. Our greatest asset outside of that is simply that we can pass along incredible amounts of data. I'm not sure our "processor" (brain) is all that much more advanced than dolphins or orcas honestly.

So yeah, I know it doesn't mean neanderthal was smarter or dumber regarding their brain case size, but I would say it's a little silly to assume that what we have about them...

 

[Horse Style]

I think he just has his own beliefs. He's not hurting anyone so why fuck with him about it?

If someone is simple-minded and shows it over and over, he's a simpleton. He can spout his outlandish beliefs and criticize actual evidence all he wants and we can point out how stupid it is to do so. No need to whine because someone criticizes his belief system.

He's not hurting anyone and we're not hurting him. People can choose to be simple and that's fine.

 

[Andy Capp]

thats Silvio

Correct, but I am willing to bet there are more people in the US who know him from the band than who know him from the Sopranos, not counting those who already knew he was in both.

And anyway it was a joke, right?