Media Sam Patterson: The Prospect We All Forgot?

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What do you reckon?

Sam Patterson seemed to have a bit of hype before his DWCS debut, which he won back in 2022.

One single defeat to heavy handed Yanal Ashmouz seemed to have him pegged as a grappler with no chin, a head on a stick so to speak - but since then he's won as an underdog TWICE, and finished all 3 of his opponents in the first round.

What's more, after back-to-back submission wins, he's just TKO'd an undefeated striker who had the hype Sam used to have (probably more).

Is Sam Patterson the prospect we all forgot, and how far can he go? Are you still assuming he gets KTFO by any competent heavy hitter, or is he more of a problem than that?
 
What should be noted is that he's 6'3 and came into the UFC at 155. Real beanpole dimensions. I mean, hell, Corey Hill was only an inch taller.

He lost that debut fight to Ashmouz, and was then booked to fight Nasrat, but pulled out due to health issues (almost definitely weight cut related). He's been 170 ever since, and has gotten 3 first round finishes for it. I believe these were his first ever fights in his career at WW, making him 3-0 here

Technique wise? Sure has room to grow (even in that finish, he was getting hit in such a way that if you paused it on first watch, you wouldn't know who was about to stumble), but I don't hold too many criticisms from the first loss against him. He'll just need time to get used to things
 
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I picked him to beat barlow and I think he's underrated, but that performance was still concerning. He stands very upright and it's like his head is on a silver platter to hit, he is a great finisher but not a safe bet to reach the rankings, I think he's like a Ian garry without any of the defensive skills
 
His striking defense seems a bit porous, but he stayed cool and picked his counters well against Barlow. I had him dead to rights once he started getting cornered, but he's rinsing out that conclusive head-bonking from Ashmouz.

I'd like to see him draw someone around 3-1 or 4-2 next-- maybe Jeremiah Wells?
 
I dont think his ceiling is very high, but he's looked really good since going to 170lbs. His chin is still waiting to get checked though. I'm glad he won, have never been that sold on Barlow like some posters are.
 
Siver! said:


What do you reckon?

Sam Patterson seemed to have a bit of hype before his DWCS debut, which he won back in 2022.

One single defeat to heavy handed Yanal Ashmouz seemed to have him pegged as a grappler with no chin, a head on a stick so to speak - but since then he's won as an underdog TWICE, and finished all 3 of his opponents in the first round.

What's more, after back-to-back submission wins, he's just TKO'd an undefeated striker who had the hype Sam used to have (probably more).

Is Sam Patterson the prospect we all forgot, and how far can he go? Are you still assuming he gets KTFO by any competent heavy hitter, or is he more of a problem than that?
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Didn't even know he existed
 
I've formerly trained at multiple same gyms as Sam, back to when he was about 14 at Gintas Combat in Watford, UK (owned by father of Modestas Bukauskas who won last week). Haven't trained with him but my best mate (black belt under Ze Marcello) trains with him frequently. Anyone who doesn't have a seriously high level ground game is really going to struggle with Sam.

Honestly, I was terrified he was going to get KOd on Saturday, and if I'm honest I'll be shitting myself every fight from here on out until he irons out the 'tall guy' element to his striking. Head barely moves, leans back, backs up in a straight line... The fact that it doesn't seem to have changed since the Israeli guy rung his bell is a constant concern

My TV room went WILD when he stumbled him
 
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Evbo said:
Former training partner of Sam, back to when he was about 14 at Gintas Combat in Watford, UK (owned by father of Modestas Bukauskas who won last week). Haven't trained with him but my best mate (black belt under Ze Marcello) trains with him frequently. Anyone who doesn't have a seriously high level ground game is really going to struggle with Sam.

Honestly, I was terrified he was going to get KOd on Saturday, and if I'm honest I'll be shitting myself every fight from here on out until he irons out the 'tall guy' element to his striking. Head barely moves, leans back, backs up in a straight line... The fact that it doesn't seem to have changed since the Israeli guy rung his bell is a constant concern

My TV room went WILD when he stumbled him
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Bukauskas vs Cutelaba in Montreal according to Wiki.
 
Siver! said:
That's a good fight. Perfect for both, really. Give the slight edge to Ion if he doesn't get too wild on the feet for too long.
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I think Bukauskas should handle him fairly easily unless he gets caught. I don't rate Cutelaba at all really.
 
The_Renaissance said:
I dont think his ceiling is very high, but he's looked really good since going to 170lbs. His chin is still waiting to get checked though. I'm glad he won, have never been that sold on Barlow like some posters are.
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Thats like 95% of MMA fighers who just keep getting hit.
 
jeskola said:
He fights with his chin up and his striking is a bit wild.
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This. His approach will get him finished badly at least more than once. Having good offence is one thing but he'll be a Jonny Walker.
 
Could easily go the other way around. He will get koed very soon with that chin high in the air.
 
Ares Black said:
Bukauskas has looked improved in his recent string of fights. I don't think he's a real contender but I do think he's better than Cutelaba.
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Going from Prachnio and a human punching bag to Cutelaba is a rough change, I think he gets blown up again tbh.

Keep in mind the guys Modestas has been beating are those who were pretty much on their way out of the UFC. Pedro, Pauga, Prachnio and Cerqueira, he's just been looking good because his comp has been so bad. Biggest hurdle for Modestas to overcome here is the difference in horsepower, which is how Petrino got him, and Vitor has proven to be a worse, less aggressive version of Cutelaba (which sucks, I was high on him when I saw him ice Bellato the first time).

I don't think either guy is that far apart in terms of overall skill with the other, one leaning more towards striking and the other towards wrestling, but Ion is a more athletic guy which should sway things his way. I also didn't like how Modestas got caught a few times by the 1-2 of Cerqueira, makes me think he's liable to add a 5th KO loss on his record.
 
Thesnake101 said:
Going from Prachnio and a human punching bag to Cutelaba is a rough change, I think he gets blown up again tbh.
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Counterpoint: Cutelaba is not a good fighter
Thesnake101 said:
Keep in mind the guys Modestas has been beating are those who were pretty much on their way out of the UFC. Pedro, Pauga, Prachnio and Cerqueira, he's just been looking good because his comp has been so bad. Biggest hurdle for Modestas to overcome here is the difference in horsepower, which is how Petrino got him, and Vitor has proven to be a worse, less aggressive version of Cutelaba (which sucks, I was high on him when I saw him ice Bellato the first time).
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I think Bukauskas could have a solid career as a gatekeeper. He is good enough to beat guys that shouldn't be here. I just think he's also good enough to beat Cutelaba (who, again, is not good)
Thesnake101 said:
I don't think either guy is that far apart in terms of overall skill with the other, one leaning more towards striking and the other towards wrestling, but Ion is a more athletic guy which should sway things his way. I also didn't like how Modestas got caught a few times by the 1-2 of Cerqueira, makes me think he's liable to add a 5th KO loss on his record.
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We shall see. I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see Bukauskas get lamped.
 
Ares Black said:
Counterpoint: Cutelaba is not a good fighter

I think Bukauskas could have a solid career as a gatekeeper. He is good enough to beat guys that shouldn't be here. I just think he's also good enough to beat Cutelaba (who, again, is not good)

We shall see. I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see Bukauskas get lamped.
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I don't think Cutelaba is particularly good either, but he's better and more dangerous than any of the guys Modestas has fought since coming back (arguably more dangerous than anyone he's fought period) and can have high peaks despite his inconsistency.

I just can't see Bukauskas stopping the takedown or avoiding all of Ion's haymakers, and he doesn't hit hard enough to dissuade Ion from doing his juggernaut shit.

MMAth also dictates that Ion > Rountree > Bukauskas
 
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