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Pet peeve but I hate it when people misinterpret the stone agebut the core teachings of Islam\Muhammeds life is stone age mentality, validating slavery and other barbaric stuff.
Pet peeve but I hate it when people misinterpret the stone agebut the core teachings of Islam\Muhammeds life is stone age mentality, validating slavery and other barbaric stuff.
Lol. The very basic supposition of Islam is that you are a lesser being if you are an infidel. We're talking here about a religion that was spread exclusively by the sword and the stifling of other cultures, and its proponents are fine af with that. The fact that there were a miserable few patrons of western culture among the early caliphs is cherry-picking AT BEST. It's no better that calling medieval Europe a pro-intellectual place just because some medieval rulers and some monasteries had a hard-on for Roman and Greek culture. Islam is threatened by other cultures, especially progressive and liberal ones, always has, always will be, put that shit in a box and bury it.Umm, you might want to qualify that statement. Islam was preserving ancient knowledge like the works of Aristotle at a time when Christians were bathing their world in ignorance and suffering. It is fair, however, to state that Islam has not been good for the future of civilization since the 1250s.
The Arabs burned the library buddy. Sorry. You're using propaganda instead of historyFirst off, I would enjoin you to point out where, once, I pretended as if Islam is a religion of peace. I dont think you could do this, because I never said it. The Islamic world, through Caliphates that were ok playing nice, for the most part, was stabilized while Christendom was splitting itself year after year or futile notions of the holy ghost and heresy after heresy.
The most notable Caliphate during the golden period was the Umayyad Caliphate. Their expansion period during the mid 600s, and into the mid 700s essentially gave them a massive swath of land, which they controlled to the point where their might was undisputed. This allowed relative peace within the Muslim world during a time in which Europe was in the middle of what we would call the dark ages, after the fall of Rome, and the rise of christendom.
I already outlined, above, the areas in which they made huge contributions. The Caliphate was a great sponsor of learning of all kinds. Art, the humanities and science. They built upon the foundations of the Greek and Roman Empires while Europe was actively purging itself of this legacy of information.
Theodosius, the Roman emperor oversaw the burning of the library of Alexandria, and after the Roman empire fell, christendom carried up this tradition. At one time, the Islamic world was the only bulwark from losing all of this information entirely.
And all of these advances, none of them had to do with the tenets of Islam, as should seem quite obvious, as none of the Abrahamic books provide much of use to base any real learning upon.
I'd convert to Islam if I could be a thong inspector.
You're just talking out of your ass here, all you've said is just conjecture that you can't really prove and isn't worth addressing.Ahh I just love the romanticizing of Islam. Basicly its just wishful thinking. Religion doesnt invent stuff, humans do. So when people refer to Islams golden age it just takes away focus from the individuals who made progress\invented stuff. If Islam hadnt taken over, those people, who were highly intelligent, would actually make even more progress and advances, but were held back because of Islam. Like a major brake. Even in "Islams golden age" inventions beeing made was of non-believers.
Sure, it spread by the sword but so did Western civilization. You think the Americas, Africa, and the Middle East and China willingly let Westerners take over? Of course not. Does that completely invalidate Western civilization? I don't think so but maybe you do if you're going to be consistent.Lets not actually forget how Islam spread out, not by a handshake and a smile, but through crusades and conquering, horrible stuff. And those opposing Islam, well life wasnt easy. Remove Islam from any region and things would flourish. Sure u could say some clerics\imams would impose a milder version of Islam, but the core teachings of Islam\Muhammeds life is stone age mentality, validating slavery and other barbaric stuff. So it kinda surprises nobody when u see the status of Islam today. It was bound to happen.
The guy was off and I explained how and now you're just saying "nuh uh!"And regarding Sam Harris I think he was spot on but maybe next time ill use Douglas Murray or Christopher Hitchens (peace be upon him btw). They sure would make Sherdog implode with their quotes. Never mind they have a IQ whole sherdog combined.
Lol. The very basic supposition of Islam is that you are a lesser being if you are an infidel. We're talking here about a religion that was spread exclusively by the sword and the stifling of other cultures, and its proponents are fine af with that. The fact that there were a miserable few patrons of western culture among the early caliphs is cherry-picking AT BEST. It's no better that calling medieval Europe a pro-intellectual place just because some medieval rulers and some monasteries had a hard-on for Roman and Greek culture. Islam is threatened by other cultures, especially progressive and liberal ones, always has, always will be, put that shit in a box and bury it.
LOL! Gay.
The Arabs burned the library buddy. Sorry. You're using propaganda instead of history
Lol. The very basic supposition of Islam is that you are a lesser being if you are an infidel. We're talking here about a religion that was spread exclusively by the sword and the stifling of other cultures, and its proponents are fine af with that. The fact that there were a miserable few patrons of western culture among the early caliphs is cherry-picking AT BEST. It's no better that calling medieval Europe a pro-intellectual place just because some medieval rulers and some monasteries had a hard-on for Roman and Greek culture. Islam is threatened by other cultures, especially progressive and liberal ones, always has, always will be, put that shit in a box and bury it.
Ahh I just love the romanticizing of Islam. Basicly its just wishful thinking. Religion doesnt invent stuff, humans do. So when people refer to Islams golden age it just takes away focus from the individuals who made progress\invented stuff. If Islam hadnt taken over, those people, who were highly intelligent, would actually make even more progress and advances, but were held back because of Islam. Like a major brake. Even in "Islams golden age" inventions beeing made was of non-believers.
Lets not actually forget how Islam spread out, not by a handshake and a smile, but through crusades and conquering, horrible stuff. And those opposing Islam, well life wasnt easy. Remove Islam from any region and things would flourish. Sure u could say some clerics\imams would impose a milder version of Islam, but the core teachings of Islam\Muhammeds life is stone age mentality, validating slavery and other barbaric stuff. So it kinda surprises nobody when u see the status of Islam today. It was bound to happen.
And regarding Sam Harris I think he was spot on but maybe next time ill use Douglas Murray or Christopher Hitchens (peace be upon him btw). They sure would make Sherdog implode with their quotes. Never mind they have a IQ whole sherdog combined.
while in Islamic culture red hair is considered attractive, so much so some men dye their bears red.
So there is a growing number of a foreign religion conspiring against Germany which is made up by a lot of ethnic Russian?
Some people will never learn.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_the_Library_of_AlexandriaIn Alexandria? No.
In Baghdad? No.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_the_Library_of_Alexandria
Really? Unlike the other times, the Arabs never replaced what they burnt
First off, I would enjoin you to point out where, once, I pretended as if Islam is a religion of peace. I dont think you could do this, because I never said it. The Islamic world, through Caliphates that were ok playing nice, for the most part, was stabilized while Christendom was splitting itself year after year or futile notions of the holy ghost and heresy after heresy.
The most notable Caliphate during the golden period was the Umayyad Caliphate. Their expansion period during the mid 600s, and into the mid 700s essentially gave them a massive swath of land, which they controlled to the point where their might was undisputed. This allowed relative peace within the Muslim world during a time in which Europe was in the middle of what we would call the dark ages, after the fall of Rome, and the rise of christendom.
I already outlined, above, the areas in which they made huge contributions. The Caliphate was a great sponsor of learning of all kinds. Art, the humanities and science. They built upon the foundations of the Greek and Roman Empires while Europe was actively purging itself of this legacy of information.
Theodosius, the Roman emperor oversaw the burning of the library of Alexandria, and after the Roman empire fell, christendom carried up this tradition. At one time, the Islamic world was the only bulwark from losing all of this information entirely.
And all of these advances, none of them had to do with the tenets of Islam, as should seem quite obvious, as none of the Abrahamic books provide much of use to base any real learning upon.
not you but the ridiculous idea that islam was ever a religion of peace.
and now its bled into some golden age of islam when it was more a continuation greek/roman and local civilizations. i was having a look at that sam harris and the islamic propagandists were showing mobile cameras as an arab invention, the ghost dude was chuffed with himself. the presenter even went to a scientific lab to stick his chest out about islamic inventions.
not you but the ridiculous idea that islam was ever a religion of peace.
and now its bled into some golden age of islam when it was more a continuation greek/roman and local civilizations. i was having a look at that sam harris and the islamic propagandists were showing mobile cameras as an arab invention, the ghost dude was chuffed with himself. the presenter even went to a scientific lab to stick his chest out about islamic inventions.