Ryan Hall doesn't believe in guard or shrimping...

Alot of what he said about preferring to sweep and be on top sounds like what Mark Laimon said. I do agree that things you learn should be broken down to a mechanical level of what works and why it works. I don't think you'll ever stop seenig people pull guard even at the highest level though.
 
Hall never said he didn't believe in shrimping. That's a misleading title. He said he thinks it should be taught differently. He also never said he thought the guard sucked. he just said he believes the focus of the guard should be to get to the top. Stop QUOTE MINING the article and let people read it for themselves!

Hall is progressing as a grappler and this interview is a example.
 
This guy is really techinical. there must be a basis that he said that.
 
thats a little disconcerting.. kinda insulting too when he basically says all 200 of the guys he beat with the guard are basically "hobbyists" haha
 
interesting....ryan must be really changing his game...he's been so bottom focused on his guard for so long...
 
we had the full interview up in our forum section, my author (Marshal) said that Ryan wanted some changes made to the article, so Marshal pulled the transcript...
 
Interesting, can't wait to see his next upcoming competition on his new gameplan
 
The whole interview makes a ton of sense. Anybody watching the ADCC can see that he's right, and that a lot of the traditional jiujitsu game is being re-thought by high level competitors.

I think that if Ryan can add an elite-level top game to his already very good defensive guard skills, he'll become a real treat at the next ADCC.
 
hey guys,
here is the link to the transcript after Ryan changed it, he took out the "garbage" comment, but still says he doesn't think the shrimp is a real move.

he made some other comments that didn't have to do with technique, I think his editing was more for those 'other comments", of respect for him, i'll leave his revised version up.

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I think the Gracies are hiding something. Rickson used to do it now its Roger.
 
Good points.

I think some people loose sight of what the "guard" is. The way I was taught is that it is "the best of the worst positions". I have always been a top player. I work hard on my gaurd to that I can still win a fight against a larger opponet or a superior wrestler wqho puts me on my back.

At the same time, the guard is still an important position because unlike tournaments you wont alwayws go against someone you size.
 
ryan hall's garbage. yeah he wins, but he doesn't do jiu jitsu. i dont know what the fuck it is (wrapping your hand up with layers upon layers of tape and heel hooking people) but its not jiu jitsu.
 
From my own experience (which granted isn't nearly as extensive as Hall's), I've found the same things to be true.

It always struck me as basic common sense that you want to be on top, yet tons of players are comfortable being off their back. Way too comfortable. I think this has a lot to do with the BJJ mentality "smaller man beating bigger man with technique". Sure, you can play on bottom against someone who's not as skilled as you, but if you're equally skilled, he'll have a mechanical advantage, then you'll either have to rely on tricks or surprise, neither of which are really reliable. The problem is there rarely is equal skill levels, and even at the highest level people can compensate with unorthodox technique or tricky flexibility.

The other thing is how sweeps are taught in isolation. As exposure it might work, but to actually explain the technique in terms of "leg goes here and push" is completely ignoring the basis of what makes a sweep work; off-balancing to get positional advantage.
 
ryan hall's garbage. yeah he wins, but he doesn't do jiu jitsu. i dont know what the fuck it is (wrapping your hand up with layers upon layers of tape and heel hooking people) but its not jiu jitsu.

That's pretty big talk, keyboard warrior.
 
Sweeps are upside-down takedowns. Half of jiu-jitsu is wrestling. It just makes sense. I think this has become a revelation for Ryan since he was the opposite kind of player a long time ago. He truly has had a paradigm shift, and it served him well in competition. I disagree that the guard will go away or be the last resort for some. I do think that good BJJ guys train their wrestling as part of their BJJ. It is just "recreational" clubs who neglect them too much.

BJJ as a sport isn't really new. It in America may be relatively new, but BJJ has been around for decades in other places. It wasn't that much longer that judo because an Olympic sport. Even wrestling has gone through major changes. It is evolving quickly, but so does judo and wrestling. Everything comes in cycles it seems.

I can vouch that few good guys, whom I've rolled with, have a good top game. And Ryan is not garbage. lolz
 
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