Movies Ryan Coogler's SINNERS (Grossed $283 Million Globally)

If you have watched SINNERS, how would you rate it?

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NoSmilez said:
I watch all vampire stuff from hot trash to decent movies or series.

Only time I was really disappointed was that interview with the vampire series. Those dudes were having floating buttsecks. I couldn’t stop laughing after that.
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Yeah that shit was too ghey for a Sherbro and I was done after the first episode 😆
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Why? For passing along factual information?

Reality Check - Dispite its 'good' opening weekend it's not guaranteed to make break even, or make an amount of profit to justify calling it a success.

You can get upset about that all you like.
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we should be celebrating a major studio giving $90m to a director for an original idea & celebrating the fact that audiences are going out to see it. you’d rather be a complete tool about the numbers than celebrate original ideas getting studio money.
 
This movie fucking rocked.

The characters, the performances, the soundtrack, the story. All top notch.

The one music scene (you know which one) was worth the price of admission alone.

A film I’ll definitely be revisiting again and again.
 
Finally watched it. Would give it at least an 8/10 for now.

Some minor gripes about their vampires.
The film kinda made it seemed like being killed by a vampire was not the worst thing. Everybody that died became a vampire a few minutes later. It would have been scarier if some victims were just eaten/devoured and not resurrected.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
I don't have a dog in this fight.
Don't care what the reasoning for calling is 'woke' or if it isn't.
I care about numbers, and clear standards of successes and failures.

We all know the term 'Box Office Bomb' meaning the movie fails to make its budget back, and theaters take roughly half of the box office.

The 'Sinners' production budget was $90 million, so the total box office it needs to at least break even is $180 million, but that doesn't count the heavy marketing budget... which is rarely released.

So, it needs... a $250 million box office return? And that's just to break even after marketing?
After that it depends on your opinion how much additional profit does a studio have to earn for the film to be considered a 'success.'

No businessman would make a substantial investment into a project, with years of work, to call it a success after earning 103% of his investment back.
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The studio gets 90% of the opening week box office, which is why its so important. Then it goes down 10% a week until the theater gets about half. It might be 60% or 40%, I dont remember. Then international box office is just a straight number, forget what it is exactly but its about half. Then streaming/blu ray, etc.
 
Bob Gray said:
The studio gets 90% of the opening week box office, which is why its so important. Then it goes down 10% a week until the theater gets about half. It might be 60% or 40%, I dont remember. Then international box office is just a straight number, forget what it is exactly but its about half. Then streaming/blu ray, etc.
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Source to confirm?
Haven't seen anything like that in anything I've read related to the boxoffice returns for the movie. Its amazing that theaters decreased their share of revenue from 50% to only 10% for this one movie, and then it goes up to 20% for the next weekend, and 30% for the week after.

It only made $14 million in International BO in its first weekend.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Source to confirm?
Haven't seen anything like that in anything I've read related to the boxoffice returns for the movie. Its amazing that theaters decreased their share of revenue from 50% to only 10% for this one movie, and then it goes up to 20% for the next weekend, and 30% for the week after.

It only made $14 million in International BO in its first weekend.
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Its been awhile. I think it was on box office mojo sometime ago. I suppose things could have changed.
 
Bob Gray said:
Its been awhile. I think it was on box office mojo sometime ago. I suppose things could have changed.
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Wherever you heard it from probably made it up.

Theaters are hurting, and many are in bankruptcy due to low attendance since the pandemic. They need any bit of revenue they can get, and since Sinners's production went through the extra expense of using IMAX cameras specifically to be shown in IMAX theaters they lost any leverage they had if they even attempted to negotiate an increased portion of tickets sales.

In other words, theaters are on life support due to streaming replacing them. They need as many movies as they can get with as many ticket sales as they can get to avoid shutting down, which is probably inevitable but accepting less than a 50% split with studios will guarantee shutting down will come sooner rather than later.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Pardon me, but at what point my one and only post in this thread about this film give the impression I wanted this movie to be crap and fail?
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Because it's an anti-white film.

All the heroes are black and all the villians are white. You're supposed to be against woke themes like this.
 
Mack Yancy said:
Because it's an anti-white film.

All the heroes are black and all the villians are white. You're supposed to be against woke themes like this.
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I judge for myself what entertainment contains obvious social and political messaging.

One of the best games I've played in the last five years is supposedly 'woke' because the levels contained dual-gender bathrooms and had posters on the walls containing many people of different ethnic backgrounds.

I'll check out Sinners when there's a good torrent for it. If it's good I'll buy it on BluRay.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Wherever you heard it from probably made it up.
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Based on what? It wasnt on some forum, like say Sherdog. It was an actual article from a movie site. Admittedly, its been a long time. Like 15 years probably, so something might have changed. I dont remember if it was box office mojo or fandango, but it was something like that.
GearSolidMetal said:
Theaters are hurting, and many are in bankruptcy due to low attendance since the pandemic. They need any bit of revenue they can get, and since Sinners's production went through the extra expense of using IMAX cameras specifically to be shown in IMAX theaters they lost any leverage they had if they even attempted to negotiate an increased portion of tickets sales.

In other words, theaters are on life support due to streaming replacing them. They need as many movies as they can get with as many ticket sales as they can get to avoid shutting down, which is probably inevitable but accepting less than a 50% split with studios will guarantee shutting down will come sooner rather than later.
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None of this has anything to do with what I said. Theaters are dying for sure, and its possible theres been some new changes. If you have any sources as to what these revenue split changes are and when they were put into effect, feel free to share.
 
Bob Gray said:
Based on what? It wasnt on some forum, like say Sherdog. It was an actual article from a movie site. Admittedly, its been a long time. Like 15 years probably, so something might have changed. I dont remember if it was box office mojo or fandango, but it was something like that.
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15 years ago?
Sinners was in production in 2024, from start to finish.

Bob Gray said:
None of this has anything to do with what I said. Theaters are dying for sure, and its possible theres been some new changes. If you have any sources as to what these revenue split changes are and when they were put into effect, feel free to share.
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This isn't a Warroom thread.
I'm trying to apply a respectful counter-argument without attacking you or insulting your credibility.

If you have any info of a 90%-10% revenue split please post a link.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
15 years ago?
Sinners was in production in 2024, from start to finish.
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Like I said, has somethig changed? It may have, I dont know.
GearSolidMetal said:
This isn't a Warroom thread.
I'm trying to apply a respectful counter-argument without attacking you or insulting your credibility.

If you have any info of a 90%-10% revenue split please post a link.
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Why do I have to provide sources but you dont when you say the theater takes half?

It could eventually be half, I dunno, if the movie is out long enough and the theater gets like 60% after a couple weeks its possible. But the opening weekend is absolutely crucial to the studios take, which is why its so important they get big openings.

Regardless of what the specific split is, the studio gets the overwhelming amount of the first weekend haul, and a sliding scale towards the theater in subsequent weeks.

On top of which, theater haul isnt the only indicator of financial success, since streaming rights and physical media are also part of the equation. So, a movie might need triple its budget to be a success, but just because it doesnt make that at the box office doesnt indicate it isnt a success.

Again, though, things could have changed especially post-covid.
 
Bob Gray said:
Like I said, has somethig changed? It may have, I dont know.
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Bobby, I'm crediting you for having above-average intelligence here. You don't really believe if you spend $15 on a theater ticket for a first-weekend movie the studio gets $13.50 and the theater gets $1.50, right?
 
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