Ryan Bader is under-rated. [Updated] (Sherarticle)

[bd5919]

Every fighter Bader has beat was either washed up, overmatched, or overrated imho. Rumble by head clean off mate!

Overrated - just like his opponent who has 1 "good" win against a guy win 0 "good" wins.

 

[KillerElite]

I personally don't think Bader get's the respect he deserves. I understand that he has a two loses via KO and two via sub - one from past prime Ortiz but anyone can get caught for real, respect to Mr Ortiz though.


When he lost to Glover, Glover was on a 19 fight win-streak and Bader honestly almost put him out more than once. Bader went in for the kill and got sloppy, he had a tendency to over-commit a little too much - rest is displayed in the GIF below but I genuinely would pick Bader to beat Glover at this point. I'm in the minority and I expect the obvious comments to come in but I'd lay money on Bader, he's fighting much smarter and more calculated these days. He knows his strengths and weaknesses well now.

He beat #6 LHW and KO artist OSP, easily via UD. It wasn't the most exciting fight but it was a dominant win over a dangerous guy and followed that up with a victory over the notoriously elusive and powerful wrestler, Phil Davis that was cut due to politics rather than his ability to compete in MMA.

And of course he topped off his 5 fight win-streak with a win over former champion Rashad Evans in a fight many counted him out of. Bader walked through Rashad. Bader ended his streak beating 3 top 10 guys consecutively.

Since the loss to Glover, Bader has beaten all of his opponents with fair ease and hasn't been in any adverse situations due to him fighting well. He is fighting to his strengths, he has great cardio, great power and great wrestling. His boxing and kicking game have come forward leaps and bounds imo and I believe he is a real threat to Rumble Johnson, this fight is no gimmie match-up for Rumble.

I agree but politics this gif explains . He is so goddamn boring to watch but he deserved the shot over cormier

 

[Kalmah]

Ryan Bader is very boring.

 

[sidecheckkick]

No he's not TS he's accurately rated. If you look past his record and actually watch his recent fights you will see he's not as good as his record suggests. I thought he definitely lost to Phil Davis and OSP was getting the better of him in the exchanges and even took him down in the later rounds when they were both gassed out.

 

[Turf Skirmish]

I want to like Bader. I have no real reason to dislike him. He's just really boring. Every time I hear of him I think, "oh yeah, that guy"

 

[orangecuse]

LOL you pretty much gloss over and have qualifiers for his losses then somehow try to prop up those oh so great impressive wins over OSP, Davis and shad. Those fights were god awful. Rashad is old and been out for years, Davis won that crap fight IMO. He LnP'd OSP so did Moussasi(need I say more) Wait so what's underrated now and why?

So tell me which moments in any of those fights you listed showed some top-3 level underrated talent that deserves a title shot? He's a solid top-5ish LHW right now good for him, that's impressive. What do you think he is?

 

[Which Doctor]

You have not witnessed a great many things then my friend. Worst thing I have ever witnessed was the movie Thanks-killing where a turkey goes on a murderous rampage. Talk about pieces of shit...

 

[rakeleaves]

I agree but Rumble is still a nightmare matchup for him.

 

[bd5919]

LOL you pretty much gloss over and have qualifiers for his losses then somehow try to prop up those oh so great impressive wins over OSP, Davis and shad. Those fights were god awful. Rashad is old and been out for years, Davis won that crap fight IMO. He LnP'd OSP so did Moussasi(need I say more) Wait so what's underrated now and why?

So tell me which moments in any of those fights you listed showed some top-3 level underrated talent that deserves a title shot? He's a solid top-5ish LHW right now good for him, that's impressive. What do you think he is?

Tell me about Rumbles wins. A head butt and beat up a 98 year old...

 

[Bend NvR Break]

Bader, he's fighting much smarter and more calculated these days. He knows his strengths and weaknesses well now.

So is Rumble. For Bader to win he's going to have to bring the fight to Rumble. Much easier said than done.

 

[sidecheckkick]

Tell me about Rumbles wins. A head butt and beat up a 98 year old...

Davis, Arlovski, Lil Nog are all top 10 or top 5 fighters that Rumble dismantled. Bader barely scrapped past those guys whereas Rumble destroyed them. Rumble gonna put a beating on this white boy

 

[bd5919]

Exactly.
Arlovski and Lil Nog.
Exactly.

 

[PrydeShlls]

Overrated - just like his opponent who has 1 "good" win against a guy win 0 "good" wins.

Cannot wait to bump this thread to rejoice with wonderful posters like you.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

I personally don't think Bader get's the respect he deserves. I understand that he has a two loses via KO and two via sub - one from past prime Ortiz but anyone can get caught for real, respect to Mr Ortiz though.


When he lost to Glover, Glover was on a 19 fight win-streak and Bader honestly almost put him out more than once. Bader went in for the kill and got sloppy, he had a tendency to over-commit a little too much - rest is displayed in the GIF below but I genuinely would pick Bader to beat Glover at this point. I'm in the minority and I expect the obvious comments to come in but I'd lay money on Bader, he's fighting much smarter and more calculated these days. He knows his strengths and weaknesses well now.

He beat #6 LHW and KO artist OSP, easily via UD. It wasn't the most exciting fight but it was a dominant win over a dangerous guy and followed that up with a victory over the notoriously elusive and powerful wrestler, Phil Davis that was cut due to politics rather than his ability to compete in MMA.

And of course he topped off his 5 fight win-streak with a win over former champion Rashad Evans in a fight many counted him out of. Bader walked through Rashad. Bader ended his streak beating 3 top 10 guys consecutively.

Since the loss to Glover, Bader has beaten all of his opponents with fair ease and hasn't been in any adverse situations due to him fighting well. He is fighting to his strengths, he has great cardio, great power and great wrestling. His boxing and kicking game have come forward leaps and bounds imo and I believe he is a real threat to Rumble Johnson, this fight is no gimmie match-up for Rumble.

Very dangerous, maybe doesn't market himself well. Could be why he doesn't get the same love that alot of other top fighters.

 

[mangokush]

Better wins than Gus

While Gus is 0-4 vs African American MMA fighters.

Bader is 4-1 soon to be 5-1 against African American MMA fighters.

 

[Captain Herb]

Bader deserves credit for his recent run. It's just that I think there is a clear gulf between the top 4 LHWs in the world and everyone else. There are very few fighters at HW, let alone LHW that I'd clearly take over Rumble, so having Bader a sizable underdog against him isn't so much a lack of respect to Bader as much as it is acknowledging that Rumble is a beast.

Bader has learned to fight smart and that's reflected by his recent record. I think specifically, it's the effectiveness of his wrestling that's underrated. He very well may be able to control Johnson and avoid the KO.

 

[The Todd]

one taste of rumble`s strength and his whole being will scream: " wtf are you doing this for? money? fuck that get out of here!!"

 

[JayElectra]

Bader has learned to fight smart and that's reflected by his recent record. I think specifically, it's the effectiveness of his wrestling that's underrated. He very well may be able to control Johnson and avoid the KO.

He can fight as smart as he wants, but without the skillset to do the job, it's all for naught. Bader simply isn't the wrestler that Cormier is, nor does he possess Cormier's durability, striking, or ability gain and maintain the clinch. Even while being clearly better than Bader in essentially every category, Cormier had to come through some serious fire to beat Rumble. I simply don't think Bader has the qualities that allowed Cormier to beat Rumble.

 

[Flex Plexico]

That Tito loss was a destroyer. I just can't get over it.

 

[Captain Herb]

He can fight as smart as he wants, but without the skillset to do the job, it's all for naught. Bader simply isn't the wrestler that Cormier is, nor does he possess Cormier's durability, striking, or ability gain and maintain the clinch. Even while being clearly better than Bader in essentially every category, Cormier had to come through some serious fire to beat Rumble. I simply don't think Bader has the qualities that allowed Cormier to beat Rumble.

I agree he's not as good all around as Cormier, but he's been able to be effective as of late. AJ dropped Cormier but still basically gave up in the third. He's never been past three rounds. Anthony is strong as fuck but so is Bader. If Bader can put in some quality minutes in the clinch and on the ground and take it past the third round, I believe he could take AJs will to win. I give Darth a 30-35% chance of winning.