International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V8

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AWilder said:
im hoping this is Russia's "find out" moment and it doesn't escalate further from here.
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This is why they are doing it they are not just flexing they are actually ready for any change and that should worry Moscow.
 
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Ukraine’s military claimed for the first time that it encountered an Iranian-supplied suicide drone used by Russia on the battlefield, showing the deepening ties between Moscow and Tehran.

US intelligence publicly warned in July that Tehran planned to send hundreds of bomb-carrying drones to Russia to aid its war on Ukraine. While Iran initially denied it, the head of its paramilitary Revolutionary Guard has recently boasted about arming the world’s top powers.

The Ukrainian military’s Strategic Communications Directorate published images of the drone’s wreckage. It resembled a triangle, or delta-shaped, drone flown by Iran known as the Shahed, or “Witness” in Farsi.

The military official and website said that Ukrainian troops encountered the drone near Kupiansk amid Kyiv’s offensive that has broken through Russian lines around Kharkiv."

https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/AP22256375248731.jpg?w=770&resize=770,400
 
MTT said:
Another one

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...energy-sector-falls-overboard-death-boat.html

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Indeed, "More than a dozen top Russian execs died in mysterious circumstances this year."
 
Azerbaijan vs Armenia stuff again most likely happened cos Kremlin wants to boost up crude oil prices.... and maybe also to sell to both of them some weapons. Nothing had changed during last 30 years....nothing new.
 
AWilder said:
"SANCTIONS DONT WORK" lmao
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It strikes me funny that the scumbags who were in here up until recently expectorating their pro-Russia/anti-"West" propaganda all over the thread (with dumb reasons why Ukraine is only making their supposedly inevitable defeat even worse on themselves by continuing to fight) have all taken a powder because they tired of looking foolish, and now the second stringers have popped in to have a go LOL
 
IDGETKTFO said:
Russia lose yet?
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In as much as they have been pushed far back rather than hold territory they won, they have already lost. In allowing Putin to remain in power for this long they have already lost a great deal, as have people around the world.

That is not a joke nor funny in any way to me.
 
Worst thing for Russia is decisions in energy field in Europe....
The same permits for power plants, even renewables earlier was real nightmare and torture to get....
Now each day in europe is something new: permit here and permit there, and in other area license prolonged....:)

We for example have solar power boom bubble
....despite north of europe...
Ofc other stuff too...now is easier to get permits for wind, fueled with wood etc stuff....


Heat insulation and stuff like this....here was actual more and more since some 2007 th...

I dunno maybe we will install some PV panels stuff in one from warehouses...
Should see calculations ofc....otherwise offers are from some 20+ companies...

For home I most likely will not install.
 
Bagatur said:
This is so typical. Those guys wouldnt be allowed to criticize the "special operation" on state-owned TV if it wasnt OKed from above. And as you see, they are not blaming Putin for the failure, they are blaming his lackeys. There is a saying in Russia "The tsar is not bad, it is the boyars who are". And so many people are so thoroughly brainwashed, that they truly believe that Putin is not responsible for what a shithole Russia is. Or for this war. I will not be surprised if they start talking soon that Putin didnt even want to start the war, but was forced by his generals and such.
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That's going to be a tough sell, considering how he berated that one advisor.

If that happens though, a LOT of heads in that staff-meeting Putin held 3 days before the war are going to roll. :)

 
Andy Capp said:
In as much as they have been pushed far back rather than hold territory they won, they have already lost. In allowing Putin to remain in power for this long they have already lost a great deal, as have people around the world.

That is not a joke nor funny in any way to me.
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Worst reality is that at least half of ppl in Russia's parliament are even more stupid than crazy Putin
...

If about aggressivity vs west...if someone had used russian media for russians in Russia....in russian...
Morozov, Medvedev and even Navalny are more crazy than Putin...
A lot of ppl like these....

We just see one crazy Putin not all mountain with dangerous snakes....
A lot of old and rich ppl living in their youth memories about cold war and " when I was young we had tanks in Berlin area and in Prague."
Or ppl worshiping ideas from Dugin and dozen of ppl like Dugin....yeah....ultra super empire from Portugal and Greenland till Vladivostok in reality is final target " russian world " wants to achieve...even if it will take xxx years....

Then ofc younger ppl and here: some % from them are maybe normal.
Some % are heavily pro " russian world " oriented fanatics even if will do all the best in their abilities to hide this....
 
Titus002 said:
Remember. Ukraine is going to defeat Russia. Lolz. Plays out perfectly. Now the European vassal states of Washington will pay sky high energy prices for this sacrifice of freedom and democracy. Lol. Bend over. Fall and winter will be hilarious in vassal Europe. Tin pot economy.
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Anyone else notice how the pro Russian crowd around here all seem to barely be able to string together coherent sentences? I also enjoy the ironic remark that standing up for freedom and democracy is “bending over” because of a year of inflated energy prices. I think you might be the one that is easily cowed here, buddy.
 
Azerbaijan attacking Armenia feels like Erdogan is trolling Putin

Bagatur said:
This is so typical. Those guys wouldnt be allowed to criticize the "special operation" on state-owned TV if it wasnt OKed from above. And as you see, they are not blaming Putin for the failure, they are blaming his lackeys. There is a saying in Russia "The tsar is not bad, it is the boyars who are". And so many people are so thoroughly brainwashed, that they truly believe that Putin is not responsible for what a shithole Russia is. Or for this war. I will not be surprised if they start talking soon that Putin didnt even want to start the war, but was forced by his generals and such.
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Was wondering similar scenario too, a possible realistic exit without corner Putin into a situation where he can't back down, could have been indeed made the fault of all this situation on some high officials heads (well the ones that have'nt been fucked up already) and make up that Russia was dragged into some sort of never really wanted conflict to feed their ambition, would even gave chance to Putin to show he "had enough" of their greed and call it a day

Problem for this solution is that i think Putin never considered defeat as a possible scenario, so he burnt himself this possible B Plan to retire, showing on purpose as a power move to be the only figure in command of this whole thing... no amount of propaganda can cancel stuff like
 
Strychnine said:
That's going to be a tough sell, considering how he berated that one advisor.

If that happens though, a LOT of heads in that staff-meeting Putin held 3 days before the war are going to roll. :)

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oh yeah, definitely! if that happens, there will be a purge. people need to see that Putin is punishing the "bad boyars" responsible for this. Putin will surround himself with new lackeys and people wont even think for a second that old lackeys, "bad boyars", were also appointed by Putin. there is a lot of serf mentality in older Russian population.
anyone criticizing Putin's circle is allowed or even told to do so. anyone criticizing Putin directly will probably commit suicide by jumping out of a window.
 
Bacco said:
Azerbaijan attacking Armenia feels like Erdogan is trolling Putin



Was wondering similar scenario too, a possible realistic exit without corner Putin into a situation where he can't back down, could have been indeed made the fault of all this situation on some high officials heads (well the ones that have'nt been fucked up already) and make up that Russia was dragged into some sort of never really wanted conflict to feed their ambition, would even gave chance to Putin to show he "had enough" of their greed and call it a day

Problem for this solution is that i think Putin never considered defeat as a possible scenario, so he burnt himself this possible B Plan to retire, showing on purpose as a power move to be the only figure in command of this whole thing... no amount of propaganda can cancel stuff like
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Most funny thing is that Russia always was weapons seller for both of them.
The same T-90 tanks Russia had sold these like 100 tanks =Azerbaijan.
While both: China and Russia had sold weapons also to Armenia.
Russia did this with huge discounts for Armenia...
Azerbaijan is crude oil exporter country and might pay decent prices for weapons.
Armenia in general is pro Kremlin oriented country....
 
Bagatur said:
oh yeah, definitely! if that happens, there will be a purge. people need to see that Putin is punishing the "bad boyars" responsible for this. Putin will surround himself with new lackeys and people wont even think for a second that old lackeys, "bad boyars", were also appointed by Putin. there is a lot of serf mentality in older Russian population.
anyone criticizing Putin's circle is allowed or even told to do so. anyone criticizing Putin directly will probably commit suicide by jumping out of a window.
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Patrushev ....
If Putin for example will die...he will have codes and keys until Russia's parliament and elecrorate will aporowe next president....

And Patrushev already does have one complect....
To use nukes Russia now needs 5 persons approval...
Shoigu is a puppet.
Next is Patrushev....Putin was his apprentice...
Then Putin...
2 others I don't know who they are.
 
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