International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V7

[Anewt]

Hadn't seen this, lol, anyone remember the computer game Worms?

Gotta adjust for wind direction, my guys!

Lol worms was a great game. Out of likes for both ya posts

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Yes. Like I already said in a previous post, knowing that you will get nuked if you use a nuke is enough reason not to use one.

That's called MAD. The thing is when you have Russians threatening the use of nukes the normal response is to worry about it.

 

[KeepingItReal]

That's called MAD. The thing is when you have Russians threatening the use of nukes the normal response is to worry about it.

Threatening to use nukes on who?

 

[Zinger]

I know it was you, didnt just want you to get tangled in thread since rus are not exactly popular right now

Speaking of unpopular russians, where the fuck is @Dexter

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Threatening to use nukes on who?

Tactical nukes in Ukraine and a MAD scenario if they're invaded. What happens if the tide turns and Ukraine is able to take back land in the Donbas region or even Crimea. What happens if the US gets involved directly destroying Russian armor and soldiers in strikes?

 

[GhostZ06]

The Russian army doesn't have enough mine clearing vehicles?

Rhino horn MRAPs?

UR-77 Meteor

 

[Fake Doctor]

Has the Russian economy and army collapsed yet, or is that still just around the corner? Not really following much any more.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Has the Russian economy and army collapsed yet, or is that still just around the corner? Not really following much any more.

They just officially defaulted on their debt a couple of days ago. The army is still making gains but more weapon shipments should arrive in Ukraine soon.

 

[Fake Doctor]

They just officially defaulted on their debt a couple of days ago. The army is still making gains but more weapon shipments should arrive in Ukraine soon.

Ok. I'll continue my monthly check-ins.

 

[Strychnine]

Speaking of unpopular russians, where the fuck is @Dexter

Well, you did post that they were passing out those flyers for military volunteers in St. Petersburg...

 

[KeepingItReal]

Tactical nukes in Ukraine and a MAD scenario if they're invaded. What happens if the tide turns and Ukraine is able to take back land in the Donbas region or even Crimea. What happens if the US gets involved directly destroying Russian armor and soldiers in strikes?

Then they got their asses at least partially kicked and Putin goes home crying to mommy. USA has allegiance to Ukraine but not the kind of allegiance that would get USA involved in actually fighting the war.

 

[12ga.]

Turkey Oked Finland in NATO..sorry Kurds you got fucked, again, lolz.....Russia will soon have thousands of 5 minutes to Moscow missiles pointed at it for this Dombass win - Or is it a Dumbass win..jury still out. Heh

 

[PEB]

Fair enough. Please bear in mind that I'm just trying to keep the thread on track while posting too.

It's upsetting to me that rooting for democracy an actually free society makes me delusional an a hypocrite.

The people who are supporting these actions support a Russian threat to freedom an destruction of such freedoms.

Delusional hardly my niece was adopted from Russia, my friends Wife an step children were from Russia.

My niece was to young to remember her life in Russia but my friends wife does an she was really happy that he spent thousands an thousands to bring her children here to the US.

Pushing this on people is routing for a stronger Russian threat that could undermine freedom an democracy that should not be taken lightly.

OK shower me with laughing childish memes as a way to deflect from actual truth.

 

[ssBaldy]

They just officially defaulted on their debt a couple of days ago. The army is still making gains but more weapon shipments should arrive in Ukraine soon.

Dont forget the reason for default is that the west won't process Russian payments. Not saying it's not technically a default or that sanctions don't hurt the economy, but it's got more to do with politics.

 

[Anewt]

It's upsetting to me that rooting for democracy an actually free society makes me delusional an a hypocrite.

The people who are supporting these actions support a Russian threat to freedom an destruction of such freedoms.

Delusional hardly my niece was adopted from Russia, my friends Wife an step children were from Russia.

My niece was to young to remember her life in Russia but my friends wife does an she was really happy that he spent thousands an thousands to bring her children here to the US.

Pushing this on people is routing for a stronger Russian threat that could undermine freedom an democracy that should not be taken lightly.

OK shower me with laughing childish memes as a way to deflect from actual truth.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with rooting for Ukraine. But if you think Ukraine isn't using pr and propaganda you're a bit blind.

Let alone the constant accusations directed at those who are interested in the actual truth on the ground. Or for posting cnn bbc or the guardian articles.

You're getting laughing memes and called delusional? Oh come on. The amount of vitriol directed at me by posters such as yourself far outweighs the tiny bit of humour taken at your expense .


Try treating people how you wish to be treated and see how it goes

 

[PEB]

Dont forget the reason for default is that the west won't process Russian payments. Not saying it's not technically a default or that sanctions don't hurt the economy, but it's got more to do with politics.

The sanctions mostly effected such items as computers, laptops, cellphones, networking gear, Russian's military access to microcontrollers used in weapon systems, airplanes, air traffic control, TV's, broadcasting, drones, automotive on an on. This is also why the west takes the threat to Taiwan seriously.

This is Putins idea of realignment of the political an freedom power base.

 

[PEB]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with rooting for Ukraine. But if you think Ukraine isn't using pr and propaganda you're a bit blind.

Let alone the constant accusations directed at those who are interested in the actual truth on the ground. Or for posting cnn bbc or the guardian articles.

You're getting laughing memes and called delusional? Oh come on. The amount of vitriol directed at me by posters such as yourself far outweighs the tiny bit of humour taken at your expense .


Try treating people how you wish to be treated and see how it goes

Short answer do I think anyone's motivation is completely true no but with a Ukraine’s issues pale in comparison with Russia taking over Ukraine an the potential of other Countries.

Putin even point blank during a Russian broadcast made it clear about his motivation.

 

[Anewt]

Short answer do I think anyone's motivation is completely true no but with a Ukraine’s issues pale in comparison with Russia taking over Ukraine an the potential of other Countries. Putin even point blank during a Russian broadcast made it clear it's about expanding Russian world order.

Mate your last two posts where you reply to people really aren't relevant to what your quoting.

There's probably one or two hard-core putin supporters who pop into this thread every now and then. I think you'll find most of us are on the fuck putin boat. But I despise the media's open lies. The ability to lie one week then contradict themselves later on without outcry is a more frightening concept to me than Russia taking over the world.

Does this mean I support Russia? Not at all. Like I've stated countless times. Fuck putin. Fuck the war. Fuck the corporations making higher profits buying Russian fossil fuels at a discount while people pay higher at the pump. Fuck conscription. Fuck the forcing of innocents to fight over a place that's been contested for 7 8 years. Fuck the people who are making money of the suffering of innocents.

Do I support ukraine? The government no. The innocent people being used as pawns ? Yes.

 

[PEB]

Mate your last two posts where you reply to people really aren't relevant to what your quoting.

There's probably one or two hard-core putin supporters who pop into this thread every now and then. I think you'll find most of us are on the fuck putin boat. But I despise the media's open lies. The ability to lie one week then contradict themselves later on without outcry is a more frightening concept to me than Russia taking over the world.

Does this mean I support Russia? Not at all. Like I've stated countless times. Fuck putin. Fuck the war. Fuck the corporations making higher profits buying Russian fossil fuels at a discount while people pay higher at the pump. Fuck conscription. Fuck the forcing of innocents to fight over a place that's been contested for 7 8 years. Fuck the people who are making money of the suffering of innocents.

Do I support ukraine? The government no. The innocent people being used as pawns ? Yes.

You sure make an interesting deflection on the topic. I can say this is the first time I have seen you say F-Putin. But me too F war but what options does Ukraine have to do? As I pointed out is Ukraine perfect no but is not close to what Russia represents.

 

[Anewt]

You sure make an interesting deflection on the topic. I can say this is the first time I have seen you say F-Putin. But me too F war but what options does Ukraine have to do? As I pointed out is Ukraine perfect no but is not close to what Russia represents.

What am I deflecting from bud? I honestly don't think either of us is following the others points at all. We're basically having two different discussions? Because I'm really not trying to deflect.

I'm sure there's plenty of posters who are aware of my fuck Putin statements. Been saying it from all the way back in earlier renditions of this thread. I said it that often that I stopped saying it lol.

Do I think the Russian Government is better than Ukraine's? Fuck no. But while corporations are making this much money of this shit which is imo literally going to end up like the 7 years of established military lines fucking over civilians ( be they Ukrainian/ Russian often both . ) I'm not going to cheer for that. I will cheer for peace in whatever form it takes though.

The reality on the ground from the sources I consume ( all western btw ) makes me think Russia will take the donbas and hold Crimea. That's just my assessment of the facts. That's not a tacit support of Russia. It's just my opinion on the facts I've read.