International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V7

[GhostZ06]

Russia’s much-vaunted new S-350 Vityaz ground-based air defense system has made what seems to be its first appearance in the war in Ukraine, with evidence of deployment at an airbase less than 40 miles from the Ukrainian border. Introducing this medium-range surface-to-air missile (SAM) system to this particular facility is interesting, suggesting broader Russian concerns that Ukraine is increasingly in a position to attack bases beyond its borders. This would make some sense following the high-profile attack on Russia’s Saki Air Base in southern Crimea, as well as previous clandestine operations.
Elements of an S-350 system can be seen in a recently released official Russian Ministry of Defense video depicting operations by Su-25 Frogfoot close air support aircraft at an unnamed airbase involved in the Ukrainian war. The video was published to accompany reports that Russian Su-25s had “eliminated military facilities and equipment” belonging to Ukraine on August 12.
While it’s highly unusual to see official imagery that includes the individual codes of Russian military aircraft, it’s the appearance of the S-350 components that’s most interesting. These have been identified by defense analyst Guy Plopsky, who tweets as @GuyPlopsky, as a 50N6A fire-control radar, 96L6-TsP acquisition radar, as well as two missile launchers, which could be examples of the 50P6 transporter-erector-launcher (TELs) and/or the very similar 50P6T launcher/loader vehicle.
The location of the video is almost certainly Taganrog Air Base, near the port city of the same name in Rostov Oblast, on the Sea of Azov. The base, also known as Taganrog Tsentralnyi, is normally home to the roughly 20 Il-76MD Candid transport aircraft of the 708th Military Transport Aviation Regiment.
Since the invasion of Ukraine began in February, Taganrog has become an important forward airbase for Russian Aerospace Forces helicopters, but Su-25s had not previously been noted here. The installation should not be confused with another airfield in Taganrog, which is used by the Beriev company, including for its work on airborne early warning aircraft.

While there have been ground-based air defense components at Taganrog Tsentralnyi for some time, the presence of launchers for the S-350 appears to be fairly new. The video clearly shows one of these in the upright position, ready to fire.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...se-system-appears-at-base-near-ukraine-border

 

[SandisLL]

C-350 launchers are capable to use also radars designed for C-300 ( all models since 1978 th ) systems....
and ofc also radars designed for C-350 systems..
About C-400 system usage is rumoured that C-350 might be used together with C-400 as addition.

Rus susp that C-300 or C-350 launcher had deNazified their own Cy-34M and Cy-25 airplane + one Mi-8 helicopter...☆☆☆.

 

[SandisLL]

+ Ukr claims that Russia is using C-300 SAM missiles also as ground to ground missiles for civilain objects shelling....

While I dunno, they have a lot of Thocka missiles and old Smerch missiles....
Why to use SAM missile?
Maybe these C-300 missiles were too old and weren't cotrollable after launch?

 

[jimbob27]

+ Ukr claims that Russia is using C-300 SAM missiles also as ground to ground missiles for civilain objects shelling....

While I dunno, they have a lot of Thocka missiles and old Smerch missiles....
Why to use SAM missile?
Maybe these C-300 missiles were too old and weren't cotrollable after launch?

Could be many reasons. Maybe lots were already delivered to the front-lines to somewhere Ukraine wasn't flying their planes so they are just using what is close to hand.

Maybe they're trying to employ them to counter the HIMARS extended range.

HIMARS have been taking out big ammo dumps so maybe there are local shortages of munitions on the front lines. In an artillery war it is important to keep firing, even if it's only 1 shell every few hours. Just to tell your adversary your guns are still pointed at them.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Putin running out an asking North Korea for help unbelievable an it's ok for him to keep asking other Countries for personal to enter the conflict but when Ukraine did it everyone was up in arms.

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Western countries have called on Russia to immediately withdraw its military forces from the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant amid continuing fears over its fate, with both sides accusing each other of shelling the facility.

The U.S., U.K., EU and other countries issued a statement on Sunday urging Russia to withdraw its troops from Europe’s largest nuclear power plant, saying their presence there “poses a great danger” to international tenets regarding nuclear safety and security.

Meanwhile, Russian President Vladimir Putin has reportedly sent a message of friendship to North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in which he expressed his wish for Russia and North Korea to deepen relations.

North Korea’s state media outlet KCNA reported on Sunday that Putin had sent the North Korean leader a congratulatory telegram for North Korea’s Liberation Day, on Monday, in which he expressed a will to “continue to expand the comprehensive and constructive bilateral relations” between the countries."

Yep, and that's how WW3 starts....i guess it's kinda started already.

 

[PEB]

Russia tennis player wined about a woman wearing the Ukrainian flag in the audience got her detained during her match. She was doing nothing other then wearing the Ukrainian flag Russians are so Karen.

 

[Badr Hari]

Situation at the front (russian perspective):

Kharkiv region - there was no information about serious changes in the front line.

Front Seversk-Soledar-Bakhmut:
Without significant progress, street fighting and fighting in the vicinity of Bakhmut and Soledar.
Fights of local importance north and northwest of Gorlovka, the enemy was slowly driven out of positions in the area.

Donetsk front - no change. Fighting on the northwestern outskirts of Sand, in Marinka.
Donetsk, Gorlovka, Makeevka - under constant fire from the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Uglegorsk area: tactical successes of the Armed Forces of the DPR, several strongholds and positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were taken within two days.

Kherson and Zaporozhye fronts - artillery and positional battles.

Front from Kharkiv to the border with Belarus: regular exchanges of artillery and rocket strikes. Including (and many) - on the territory of the Russian Federation.

 

[Badr Hari]

 

[Bojka]

Russia tennis player wined about a woman wearing the Ukrainian flag in the audience got her detained during her match. She was doing nothing other then wearing the Ukrainian flag Russians are so Karen.

Rothenberg in Tennis is a well known click bait artist. Good chance it didn't happen the way he reported it.

He is a provocateur/troll more than he is a legitimate journalist.

 

[Devil's_Advocate]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russian-military-command-flees-kherson-220850354.html

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Most of the Russian military commanders have fled from the city of Kherson.

Source: Yurii Sobolevskyi, Deputy Head of Kherson Oblast Council, on air during the 24/7 national joint newscast, quoted by BBC Ukraine

Quote: "I can confirm this. It’s true, as of today, the orcs [Russians - ed.] don’t have a single supply route that would be safe and could specifically satisfy the need to supply the concentration of their troops deployed near Kherson."

Details: Sobolevskyi confirmed that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are controlling all the main roads in the area.

"This might have become the reason for the retreat of the military command from Kherson. The majority of them have already left Kherson and yes, we have reports that this has happened," Sobolevskyi noted.

He added that the Antonivka road bridge can no longer be crossed even on foot.

Sobolevskyi believes that the morale of the Russian troops is currently particularly low because all their plans with regard to Kherson Oblast have failed.

Earlier: Operational Command Pivden (South) reported that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have carried out a new strike on the Antonivka road bridge, forcing the Russian military command to flee."

 

[Be the ball]

Russia tennis player wined about a woman wearing the Ukrainian flag in the audience got her detained during her match. She was doing nothing other then wearing the Ukrainian flag Russians are so Karen.

Bahahahaha

 

[Anewt]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russian-military-command-flees-kherson-220850354.html

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Most of the Russian military commanders have fled from the city of Kherson.

Source: Yurii Sobolevskyi, Deputy Head of Kherson Oblast Council, on air during the 24/7 national joint newscast, quoted by BBC Ukraine

Quote: "I can confirm this. It’s true, as of today, the orcs [Russians - ed.] don’t have a single supply route that would be safe and could specifically satisfy the need to supply the concentration of their troops deployed near Kherson."

Details: Sobolevskyi confirmed that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are controlling all the main roads in the area.

"This might have become the reason for the retreat of the military command from Kherson. The majority of them have already left Kherson and yes, we have reports that this has happened," Sobolevskyi noted.

He added that the Antonivka road bridge can no longer be crossed even on foot.

Sobolevskyi believes that the morale of the Russian troops is currently particularly low because all their plans with regard to Kherson Oblast have failed.

Earlier: Operational Command Pivden (South) reported that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have carried out a new strike on the Antonivka road bridge, forcing the Russian military command to flee."

Contradictions abound.

Russia can't supply its troops so have fled. Ukraine holds all main roads.. Howd they flee then? If Russia has fled. Why still destroying bridges?

No plans to go further than Kherson?

Most up-to-date information I've found in regards to it ( not from ukrainian politicians ) is that very little has been gained from Either side.

 

[Videer]

In Crimea they just dont get that smoking is strictly forbidden! again more than 100 miles from the front

 

[Fox by the Sea]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russian-military-command-flees-kherson-220850354.html

"
Most of the Russian military commanders have fled from the city of Kherson.

Source: Yurii Sobolevskyi, Deputy Head of Kherson Oblast Council, on air during the 24/7 national joint newscast, quoted by BBC Ukraine

Quote: "I can confirm this. It’s true, as of today, the orcs [Russians - ed.] don’t have a single supply route that would be safe and could specifically satisfy the need to supply the concentration of their troops deployed near Kherson."

Details: Sobolevskyi confirmed that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are controlling all the main roads in the area.

"This might have become the reason for the retreat of the military command from Kherson. The majority of them have already left Kherson and yes, we have reports that this has happened," Sobolevskyi noted.

He added that the Antonivka road bridge can no longer be crossed even on foot.

Sobolevskyi believes that the morale of the Russian troops is currently particularly low because all their plans with regard to Kherson Oblast have failed.

Earlier: Operational Command Pivden (South) reported that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have carried out a new strike on the Antonivka road bridge, forcing the Russian military command to flee."

source: trust me bro

jesus fuck, these articles are absolute hogwash

 

[Vergilius]

Contradictions abound.

Russia can't supply its troops so have fled. Ukraine holds all main roads.. Howd they flee then? If Russia has fled. Why still destroying bridges?

No plans to go further than Kherson?

Most up-to-date information I've found in regards to it ( not from ukrainian politicians ) is that very little has been gained from Either side.

That's not what the text says, you are reading it wrong: the main supply routes have been destroyed or damaged and those that remain are not safe to use (pontoon bridges etc.). The Russian commanders have reportedly moved their command stations to the other side of the river, but Russian soldiers remain in the city itself. The Ukrainian strategy seems to be to continue hitting vulnerable supply lines in the hope that Russia comes to see it's presence in Kherson city as untenable and withdraw to the other side fo the river. If that doesn't happen, they will have to storm the city and that's likely to get ugly.

 

[Anewt]

That's not what the text says, you are reading it wrong: the main supply routes have been destroyed or damaged and those that remain are not safe to use (pontoon bridges etc.). The Russian commanders have reportedly moved their command stations to the other side of the river, but Russian soldiers remain in the city itself. The Ukrainian strategy seems to be to continue hitting vulnerable supply lines in the hope that Russia comes to see it's presence in Kherson city as untenable and withdraw to the other side fo the river. If that doesn't happen, they will have to storm the city and that's likely to get ugly.

Touche. Fair point.

But no offence old mates " reports " of Russian command leaving and Russian soldiers having low morale seems a stretch to me from a Ukrainian politician. I'm putting it in the highly dubious basket for now.

 

[Vergilius]

Touche. Fair point.

But no offence old mates " reports " of Russian command leaving and Russian soldiers having low morale seems a stretch to me from a Ukrainian politician. I'm putting it in the highly dubious basket for now.

I don't personally believe the Russians will give up Kherson without the Ukrainians storming it, though it CAN be utter folly to try to hold a city through urban combat when the local population is hostile to you. But even if the Russian position in Kherson does become untenable, it will be hard for Moscow to order a retreat for political reasons (they did abandon Snake Island when it became impossible to hold, but that was of less importance).

It looks to me as if a major Ukrainian offensive is still some time off, if it does occur. They may be setting the table for it with these strikes, but it may also be that they are only disrupting the Russians without really being able to go on the offensive themselves. Retaking Kherson would be a huge boost for them, though, and it's the likeliest major target that I can see on the map.

 

[ferrisjso]

At the end of the day even if the Ukranians can take Kherson(debatable) they'd only able to do it because it's in an exposed position barely over the river. If Ukraine drove the Russians over the Dneiper there's no reason to believe they'd be able to move further besides simply throwing around the word "momentum". Russia is struggling to reinforce Kherson because they don't have much of a presence on the west bank of a river, well if Ukraine took the west bank the same would be true of any attacks Ukraine made on the east bank.

 

[PEB]

In Crimea they just dont get that smoking is strictly forbidden! again more than 100 miles from the front

Russia gonna have to sell tons of oil and gas on the cheap to China to pay for all the ammo destruction.

 

[PEB]

Yeah run right into a mine.