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Russia/Ukraine Megathread V6

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id imagine consider the Russian still use Soviet style tactics from the 1980s i dont think theyd reach to far inland. Especially if they decide that attacking you in winter

Our military is a question mark, cant judge army by conflict long time ago

Our volunteers in ukr are apperantly doing ok compared to nato guys simply because our army is trained assuming enemy has air dominance.

But overall still a question mark
 
They now are using as live meat the same separatists from self proclaimed donetsk republic ....in Mariupol.
Looks that this for them is better than to use meat from russia.

Rumored that now kleptocrats had delivered some working missiles, maybe 50+ and might launch tonight...
 
Not a huge fan of that cockroach of a person myself
But i doubt turkey is getting kicked out of nato anytime soon
On the plus side he should be gone next year, assuming he doesn’t bitch and moan loud enough to have the term limit extended.
 
Not a huge fan of that cockroach of a person myself
But i doubt turkey is getting kicked out of nato anytime soon
Not likely they will be kicked out while with this he fucked up relationships with EU/EEZ even more.
They for sure now will not get a lot of possible long term investments......
Because if they are crying and attempting to instruct Sweden about ppl allowed to live in Sweden....then it is beyond borders.
We don't instruct Turkey about such things.
 
erdogan is a pos. Turkey should be kicked out of nato.

He is a pos but Turkey should definitely not be kicked out of NATO. They are a reliable strong partner of the West. After US and UK they are the biggest helpers of Ukraine since Feb 24th.

What was discussed today about blocking Sweden and Finland isn't a hard to solve diplomatic problem, if there is political will from both sides.
 
Anyway if he will get pressure from U.S, Commonwelth& U.K supported by Norway, Canada and Netherlands....then he might think.
Sweden does have too long and deep business ties with west and is very usable partner for trade and businesses...
It isn't Ukraine for sure...
 
Honest question for Europeans in here. Do you guys really actually pay attention to the level of horse shit coming out the Turkish PM mouth?

And if i was Finland id be pretty concerned about Russia as well.
erdogan is a nutter, nobody takes him seriously as far as i know. he is busy screwing up his economy apparently, and is triggered because he cant officially join the EU
 
I wouldn't kick out a valuable partner of 70 years because of one leader.

No way should NATO consider kicking Turkey out - and they won't.

Even if you don't approve of Turkey, and there are good reasons, they are not a country we should be looking to exclude.
 


Ukrainian troops training on the howitzer 2000 in Germany.

35 mile range on that.

This is why Russia can't win. While they're burning through outdated and irreplaceable equipment Ukr is getting trained and supplied in superior stuff. Nevermind you'll not find examples of random Ukranians just wanting to go home sabotaging their means of war. Funny (not really) how miscalculated or misinformed Putin was as to how this was going to go down.
 
He is a pos but Turkey should definitely not be kicked out of NATO. They are a reliable strong partner of the West. After US and UK they are the biggest helpers of Ukraine since Feb 24th.

What was discussed today about blocking Sweden and Finland isn't a hard to solve diplomatic problem, if there is political will from both sides.

Turkey is of course going to say no initially they want to be bribed to let them in.

Its kind of shitty behaviour but expected from Turkey and honestly a good move form their part.
 
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