Russia/Ukraine Megathread V6

[Captain Herb]

Ukraine is capturing Russia's most advanced systems and sending them to US for analysis

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-captures-one-russias-most-124539212.html

A complete Krasukha-4 is a two-part system consisting of a command post module and an electronic warfare system, mounted separately on two trucks.

It is believed that a Krasukha-4 system was used against Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drones in Syria, interfering with their control signal and causing them to crash, according to The Telegraph.

The highly-rated Bayraktar TB2 drones are among those used by Ukrainian forces, used to destroy Russian tanks, armor, and truck convoys.

The seized unit will be examined by Western spy agencies, The Telegraph reported, adding that it would likely be taken by road to the US Air Force's Ramstein Air Base in Germany, before being flown to the US.

Examining the unit could reveal secrets of how it works, which could help Ukraine and Western allies render it useless on the battlefield.

Justin Crump, a military veteran and CEO of risk analysis consultancy Sibylline, told The Times that the seizure was among "lots of goodies that have been recovered on the battlefield."

 

[M3t4tr0n]

He's weak and also the most diabolical evil threat to...everything.

Did he? White house now saying he wasn't calling for regime change or Putin to be removed from power when he called for regime change and said Putin must be removed from power.
Jesus what a mess he is.

There's also the whole "sanctions are not a deterrent" hissy fit thing when he and the WH said deterrent for 3 weeks straight. Meant to be a deterrent, over and over.
He's pretty weak, bro.

He is out maneuvering Putin left and right. Biden has destroyed Putin.

 

[Xuh]

 

[lsa]

Ukraine is capturing Russia's most advanced systems and sending them to US for analysis

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-captures-one-russias-most-124539212.html

A complete Krasukha-4 is a two-part system consisting of a command post module and an electronic warfare system, mounted separately on two trucks.

It is believed that a Krasukha-4 system was used against Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drones in Syria, interfering with their control signal and causing them to crash, according to The Telegraph.

The highly-rated Bayraktar TB2 drones are among those used by Ukrainian forces, used to destroy Russian tanks, armor, and truck convoys.

The seized unit will be examined by Western spy agencies, The Telegraph reported, adding that it would likely be taken by road to the US Air Force's Ramstein Air Base in Germany, before being flown to the US.

Examining the unit could reveal secrets of how it works, which could help Ukraine and Western allies render it useless on the battlefield.

Justin Crump, a military veteran and CEO of risk analysis consultancy Sibylline, told The Times that the seizure was among "lots of goodies that have been recovered on the battlefield."

Russia playing 8D chess
They want these units to be captured because they are decoys.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

No. It has more to do with Russia being a paper tiger all along.

Biden and the Ukranians seem to have revealed that pretty well and have taken advantage of it. Putin is done on the world stage.

 

[mkess101]

And this is the problem of the European empire (West/North Europe, US, Canada, Australia ect). It does not acknowledge "the Other". The entire current liberal/woke culture is exploiting that reality for political gain.

Nevertheless, as I've already said, I see the Cold War PTSD playing a big role in Putin Psychology.

Right. Nearly any action by any leader ever can be justified. The only ones who can hold them as unjust is the ones who have jurisdiction over them. Alternatively, if they lose a war, then their opponent can call them whatever names they want and make it stick. Here you go:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/03/andrew-p-napolitano/is-putin-a-war-criminal/

Long way of saying "Might makes right". I guess I'm glad we Americans have the biggest swinging dick then. Sure other nations have the nuclear equalizers, but they know that means we all die so barring some crazy dictator launching ICBM's and bringing on a nuclear apocalypse, for now the US/NATO is gonna dictate shit. And I'm fine with that. Sure as hell far from perfect, but better than the alternative.

 

[HOLA]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60807538

Russian general Yakov Rezantsev killed in Ukraine

“Russian forces are believed to be relying in part on open communication systems, for example mobile phones and analogue radios, which are easy to intercept and could give away the locations of high-ranking officers.”

"On Friday, a western official reported that a Russian colonel had been deliberately run over and killed by his own men, as a result of the scale of losses taken by his brigade."

 

[AB234]

I mean that's fine, but then the rest of the world sees him as thinking "Putin=Russia". Not the Russian people, him. He matters, and that's all. And excusing his behavior because "Hey, he feels threatened" isn't justifiable. Literally any action by any leader ever can then be justified. So you then have to have outsiders use (as best they can) objective reasoning to determine is actions are justified or not.

Also, sometime around the start of the action, Russia invoked some official statement (?) from the U.N. which said that no nation could strengthen its own security by endangering the security of another.

 

[lsa]

And whats this supposed to be?
VG is Norwegian and part of the text is in English..
So its a shop.

 

[A Lurker]

It's Saturday, so let's loosen up a little. Here's my guess on what has been Putin's number one song in Spotify in recent years:



Oh yeah, being the smooth operator, sending troops to Syria, acting cool on internet, feeling that the time is nigh...

Here's my prediction for Putin's mood after his troops get thrown out of Ukraine:

This thread needs more Sisters of Mercy,

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Yeah, a dementia-ridden Biden with an abjectly incompetent VP being "elected" is Trump's fault.
Got it.

LOL! It's Trump supporters' fault. Lock him up!

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Ukraine is capturing Russia's most advanced systems and sending them to US for analysis

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-captures-one-russias-most-124539212.html

A complete Krasukha-4 is a two-part system consisting of a command post module and an electronic warfare system, mounted separately on two trucks.

It is believed that a Krasukha-4 system was used against Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drones in Syria, interfering with their control signal and causing them to crash, according to The Telegraph.

The highly-rated Bayraktar TB2 drones are among those used by Ukrainian forces, used to destroy Russian tanks, armor, and truck convoys.

The seized unit will be examined by Western spy agencies, The Telegraph reported, adding that it would likely be taken by road to the US Air Force's Ramstein Air Base in Germany, before being flown to the US.

Examining the unit could reveal secrets of how it works, which could help Ukraine and Western allies render it useless on the battlefield.

Justin Crump, a military veteran and CEO of risk analysis consultancy Sibylline, told The Times that the seizure was among "lots of goodies that have been recovered on the battlefield."

Hippity hoppity. Your Krasukha-4 is now my property.

 

[mkess101]

Also, sometime around the start of the action, Russia invoked some official statement (?) from the U.N. which said that no nation could strengthen its own security by endangering the security of another.

Again...fine...but that's utterly subjective. And very typical of something the UN would put out. It sounds great, theoretically it makes sense. And then you try to decipher how it actually is put into practice and you're left with everyone looking at each other and shrugging about what that actually means when determining if nations are abiding by it.

 

[Xuh]

VG is Norwegian and part of the text is in English..
So its a shop.

 

[lsa]

Then you have the original link?

 

[Khaiser]

No, no, no. You don't get it. You're SUPPOSED to have your crack troops try to encircle the capital city and fail miserably. Then, they're supposed to limp back closer to your own border and declare victory. 11th-D chess!

Are the crack troops actually in Ukraine yet though?

According to the Putin-lovers here, he’s just sent in the cannon fodder. The crack troops will arrive…..soon….any day now…..when he’s successfully navigated back to focussing purely on the Donbas….any second now

 

[AB234]

Long way of saying "Might makes right". I guess I'm glad we Americans have the biggest swinging dick then. Sure other nations have the nuclear equalizers, but they know that means we all die so barring some crazy dictator launching ICBM's and bringing on a nuclear apocalypse, for now the US/NATO is gonna dictate shit. And I'm fine with that. Sure as hell far from perfect, but better than the alternative.

Yeah. From my perspective, peace seems to be an anomaly.

 

[A Lurker]

From everything I have seen, they haven't even tried to take Kiev yet. When did they try to take Kiev?
Also, taking Kiev doesn't indicicate they want all of Ukraine, that is just a bad assertion with flawed logic.

Also, Rational Poster said that Putin said he was going to take Ukraine in his speech. I watched the speech I know he never said that, I was just interested to see if Rational Poster would actually try to prove it, but he tucked tail and ran, because he lied.

They tried to invade Kyiv in the first 72 hours to decapitate the leadership and have been trying to surround it ever since.

You have a nerve talking about flawed logic.

 

[AB234]

Again...fine...but that's utterly subjective. And very typical of something the UN would put out. It sounds great, theoretically it makes sense. And then you try to decipher how it actually is put into practice and you're left with everyone looking at each other and shrugging about what that actually means when determining if nations are abiding by it.

lol

Theory vs application: SNAFU

 

[Xuh]

Then you have the original link?

I didn't take the image, but it appears to be this article which is being constantly updated ('last updated 20 mins ago' as of time I poast this) (so the headline has likely changed):
https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/...-lviv-betydelig-skade-paa-infrastrukturanlegg

the comments from the expert!!!!! are in the middle of the page at the moment; currently under a subheading which is translated as 'Does not make any special sense'.