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Russia/Ukraine Megathread V6

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This one is the toughest to watch, but truly a masterpiece. Hollywood simply couldn't make something like this, watch it if you haven't already. By far the best WW2 movie ever made. "Come and see", directed by Elem Klimov.



I bought the criterion collector's version of this film because Sherdog recommended it.

Amazingly terrifying film.
 
Which would make American debt seem worse since shelter and secure investments are more justifiable reasons to take on debt, except that I think American household debt is just over 100% of disposable income and Australian household debt is just over 200% (or for another metric, over 21% of Australians have a debt to income ratio of 6x or more).
For sure. I think a home is the only thing the average person should be in debt for. Student debt is ok IF it's going to get you where you need to be. So many people rack up huge debt on useless degrees and wonder why they can't get ahead in life. Buying or leasing new cars that you cant afford is the worst though. I think real estate is always a good investment unless it's a bubble market, which it may be down there, I don't know.
 
Russia says first phase of Ukraine operation mostly complete, focus now on Donbass

"Good news! Our planned first stage of warfare, failing to capture the capital and getting ten thousand or so of our soldiers killed without any gains, has been a massive success! We will now victoriously set our goals way lower."

"Actually, we weren't trying to capture Kyiv at all. You see, the plan was just to amass a force and sort of tease them with rockets and artillery, like a way of saying hello. In Russia this is accepted custom."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russia-says-first-phase-ukraine-134534902.html

Russian Generals…

 
Girl who sang Let It Go in a bomb shelter near the beginning of the Ukraine war sang the Ukrainian National Anthem in front of a packed house of 20,000 in Poland and that raised nearly 400,000 in Ukrainian relief but she did not do her trademark "Let It Go" song I hope she was told not to do it by Disney executives or she is saving it for some huge US event in LA?

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Me, for a month now: They don’t want the west
Russia never makes a serious push for the west
R/Ukraine posters here:It’s because they stalled and ran out of supplies and Putin’s a retard and you’re a shill reeeee

I don’t think Putin ever wanted Kiev, day by day it becomes pretty clear. Or, that he wasn’t prepared to escalate to that point, which was always going to be especially brutal and bloody for both sides
Or maybe he went in swinging wide looking for a quick KO and walked into a few good punches that have him on the back foot. Like a contender stepping in the ring against a journeyman but once he gets there it's Emanuel Steward in the opposing corner and he ends up with more than he bargained for.
 
This one is the toughest to watch, but truly a masterpiece. Hollywood simply couldn't make something like this, watch it if you haven't already. By far the best WW2 movie ever made. "Come and see", directed by Elem Klimov.


It's very well made. Come And See has a reputation as pacifist war movie, but instead it's the classic story of the Russians being the victims suffering for the motherland and then there's a nice little denazification in the end.
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Really disturbing stuff because of how fresh all the bodies are. I can stomach really mutilated or long dead bodies because they hardly resemble a human but it's harder to see a stiffened out granny that just died or a child in a vegetative state.
Due to the cold temperatures, you are not seeing the bloated bodies and horrific smell of decomposition. The dead bodies are frozen. It is all horrible, specially when they are women and children. It has a very negative emotional effect on those that have to clean up those dead bodies. A lot of world attention to this war. Reminds me of the daily war footage we had on the Vietnam war here in the US. Afghanistan and Iraq were more sterilized.
 
When the hell did i say that?

Just a few I could find back in February -

Da Speeit said:
which war? Who is fighting who? You have any pics or videos of the countless dead bodies in this savage war?
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...-megathread-v1.4226407/page-76#post-167546359

Da Speeit said:
Alright the jig is up, I'll spoil it for you guys

*Couple more days of light skirmishes in abandoned fields and warehouses where old tech vehicles get blowed up
*UN sends the relief, weapons and $$ Zelensky wants
*Zelensky pledges neutrality
*Putin rolls back, probably keeps eastern provinces (which he already pretty much had through proxies)
*Putin declares this as a successful defeat of NATO aggression
*Zelenksy declares this as a successful defense of democratic Ukraine
*Biden declares this as a successful act of diplomacy to humiliate Russia

Everyone gets richer

BLM/ACAB They/Themilys think their SJW bullshit on twitter and ig saved the world
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...gathread-vol-2.4228436/page-25#post-167559650

Da Speeit said:
It's you cool you don't agree man, what I'm telling you is 100% going to happen.
There is a "WARRR" going in a major European city rn, yet no videos of skirmishes, bombings or deaths in any facet other than some field in the distance being blown up. The President of Ukraine is making huge and bold claims with absolutely zero evidence, making grandiose speeches and rhetoric, "On the ground reports" of almost 1k dead russian soldiers and in 2022...we've seen none of it.
Fat chance. If you buy it, cool.

This is a giant military exercise from both. I'm sure there have been casualties. But this if this were 1/10th of what we're being told it is, we would see something...anything.
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...gathread-vol-2.4228436/page-25#post-167559727

Da Speeit said:
This is like 85% the Wests fault.
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...gathread-vol-2.4228436/page-30#post-167560458
Da Speeit said:
Crazy ,all of this disinformation I'm spewing and still no sourcing to any images or videos of these heroic, barbaric gunfights.
Huh. Weird.
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...gathread-vol-2.4228436/page-29#post-167560453
Da Speeit said:
oh you're still on this?
I was right about everything btw.
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...egathread-vol-3.4228867/page-7#post-167586155
 
Actually, nobody saw it coming in such a manner. Was a surprise to me and almost everyone in Russia. I've read an interview with Hostomel airfield assault participants recently, they were like "we were 99% sure there will be a no-go signal before we saw cruise missiles flying overhead".
Sleepy Joe was the only one who was awake
 
You and a couple of others keep reposting these but its never saying there’s not an invasion happening, and these were in response to the “epic seige of kiev” that didnt happen 4 fridays ago.

weak shit.
But where's the war, tho?
 
But where's the war, tho?
Has either side formally declared war? Im not an expert on the Ukrainian or Russian parliment

Russia has invaded Ukraine. Idk why you guys are hell bent on alleging i’ve ever said otherwise
 
It's very well made. Come And See has a reputation as pacifist war movie, but instead it's the classic story of the Russians being the victims suffering for the motherland and then there's a nice little denazification in the end.
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Hey, I've cried while watching it, too. But for different reasons, I guess. To each his own, definitely an amazing movie.
 
Best movie about Stalingrad is naturally the 1949 USSR made Battle of Stalingrad. Russians are having a terrible time in the city under siege until Stalin gets tired of all the loser generals making bad decisions, takes control of strategy and suddenly the defenders start chasing the Germans back to west killing them relentlessly in the endless frozen wastelands. 3 house and 12 minutes of pure Stalinist joy.
 
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