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Russia/Ukraine Megathread V5

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He made a fool of himself according to who? Zelensky is doing everything he possibly can to help his Country win this war. Of course he is going to push on other Country's to help and try and play the emotion card when asking for assistance. What kind of bizarre world do we live in when a man is doing EVERYTHING he can for his Country to win this war and stay Sovreign, and people trash talk him for doing it? The same people who supposedly call themself patriots are telling him to surrender because he has no chance to win, JFC.
Israel, you know, the country he was pleading with.
He was saying downright inaacurate ridiculous shit trying to get a foreign power to provoke a neighboring country’s ally.
 
Man, don't be that childish :D. No one except the Ministry of Defense has the actual information about the losses, so in no way this magazine could post something like that without MoD approval. Obviously, MoD would never provide it, because they will post it by themselves as they always do.



@Zinger Any pure-breed Russians still left, comrade?

Russian isn't a genetic trait, it's a state of mind.
 
He made a fool of himself according to who? Zelensky is doing everything he possibly can to help his Country win this war. Of course he is going to push on other Country's to help and try and play the emotion card when asking for assistance. What kind of bizarre world do we live in when a man is doing EVERYTHING he can for his Country to win this war and stay Sovreign, and people trash talk him for doing it? The same people who supposedly call themself patriots are telling him to surrender because he has no chance to win, JFC.


Apparently he compared the plight of the Ukrainian people under the Russian invasion to the holocaust. That’s a pretty dumb thing to do. If they were looking for a reason not to help that would be enough.
 
Israel, you know, the country he was pleading with.
He was saying downright inaacurate ridiculous shit trying to get a foreign power to provoke a neighboring country’s ally.

What did he say that was downright inaccurate from the article you linked? It didn't quote one word from Zelensky. Are you just making things up again?
 
Tucker Carlson is a complete wack job. And did you seriously ask why Zelensky hasn't brought any lawsuits for defamation....? You do realize he could DIE any day because his entire Country is at WAR right.....?
You really think he has to be the one bringing the suit? His lawyers in Panama can do it for him, while he leads his country’s resistance through martial law. And it’s not about zelensky alone, Tucker says incriminating shit about his good friends the Biden’s all the time too. Why no suit? It’s not like he’s one of us sherdoggers this guy is the most watched person on TV. Him spreading provocative fake news is a major threat due to the size of his audience and span of reach!
 
You really think he has to be the one bringing the suit? His lawyers in Panama can do it for him, while he leads his country’s resistance through martial law. And it’s not about zelensky alone, Tucker says incriminating shit about his good friends the Biden’s all the time too. Why no suit? It’s not like he’s one of us sherdoggers this guy is the most watched person on TV. Him spreading provocative fake news is a major threat due to the size of his audience and span of reach!

Because Tucker is a lunatic that nobody listens to. A blabbering moron, and I'm a conservative. Wasn't he the one that got the BIOWEAPONS narrative rolling and had a bunch of people actually believing Ukraine was making bioweapons of mass destruction funded by the US?
 
You should feel shame for typing that.
I did. Especially after watching his Jan 6 take and Kyle Rottenhouse specials (talk about spins and one sided reporting). But if the guy with the highest viewership in the nation is spewing lies why aren’t there any defamation suits?
 
Because Tucker is a lunatic that nobody listens to. A blabbering moron, and I'm a conservative. Wasn't he the one that got the BIOWEAPONS narrative rolling and had a bunch of people actually believing Ukraine was making bioweapons of mass destruction funded by the US?
he is actively feeding the narrative that putin can use to deploy chemical attacks in ukraine, which is one of the reasons i think hes a cunt.
 
Apparently he compared the plight of the Ukrainian people under the Russian invasion to the holocaust. That’s a pretty dumb thing to do. If they were looking for a reason not to help that would be enough.

Can you directly source this? Or is this a "he said she said" type of scenario?
 
I didn't mean it like that.

But yes, I know, I have some in my family.

Russian support-bot exposed himself by not confirming that every Russian is a vatnik. I'm calling the Valsts drošības dienests right now!
 
Because Tucker is a lunatic that nobody listens to. A blabbering moron, and I'm a conservative. Wasn't he the one that got the BIOWEAPONS narrative rolling and had a bunch of people actually believing Ukraine was making bioweapons of mass destruction funded by the US?
He said so much shit it’s a mystery how he’s still allowed to operate.

No one listens to? How do you quantify this? His tv ratings are better than everyone else.
 
Apparently he compared the plight of the Ukrainian people under the Russian invasion to the holocaust. That’s a pretty dumb thing to do. If they were looking for a reason not to help that would be enough.

So I did some digging, and it seems you and spee are blabbering fake news.

Zelensky Sparks Indignation in Israel With 'Infuriating' Holocaust Comparison (newsweek.com)

In a video conference with Israeli leaders, Zelensky urged the nation to stand up against Russia by imposing economic sanctions and providing weapons to Ukraine. During that speech, Zelensky claimed that Russian President Vladimir Putin is attempting to carry out a "final solution" in his country.

Not even CLOSE to directly comparing it to the holocaust. I would have no idea what "final solution" was with the holocaust without googling it. Shame on both of you.
 
So I did some digging, and it seems you and spee are blabbering fake news.

Zelensky Sparks Indignation in Israel With 'Infuriating' Holocaust Comparison (newsweek.com)

In a video conference with Israeli leaders, Zelensky urged the nation to stand up against Russia by imposing economic sanctions and providing weapons to Ukraine. During that speech, Zelensky claimed that Russian President Vladimir Putin is attempting to carry out a "final solution" in his country.

Not even CLOSE to directly comparing it to the holocaust. I would have no idea what "final solution" was with the holocaust without googling it. Shame on both of you.

Lol it's very well known what the term "final solution" means, especially among jews imagine. I wouldn't use your ignorance as an argument
 
You really think he has to be the one bringing the suit? His lawyers in Panama can do it for him, while he leads his country’s resistance through martial law. And it’s not about zelensky alone, Tucker says incriminating shit about his good friends the Biden’s all the time too. Why no suit? It’s not like he’s one of us sherdoggers this guy is the most watched person on TV. Him spreading provocative fake news is a major threat due to the size of his audience and span of reach!
He was sued but
Just read U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil's opinion, leaning heavily on the arguments of Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "


She wrote: "Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes."

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/9177...s-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye
 
So I did some digging, and it seems you and spee are blabbering fake news.

Zelensky Sparks Indignation in Israel With 'Infuriating' Holocaust Comparison (newsweek.com)

In a video conference with Israeli leaders, Zelensky urged the nation to stand up against Russia by imposing economic sanctions and providing weapons to Ukraine. During that speech, Zelensky claimed that Russian President Vladimir Putin is attempting to carry out a "final solution" in his country.

Not even CLOSE to directly comparing it to the holocaust. I would have no idea what "final solution" was with the holocaust without googling it. Shame on both of you.

Don’t mean it as a jibe just a genuine question, did you really have no idea what connotations “final solution” had without google? Again I’m not trying to be a dick to you just genuinely interested. I don’t know anyone who wouldn’t view the term final solution as a holocaust reference but I imagine ww2/the rise of hitler etc is taught very differently in different places.
 
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Yep 100%. It is what it is, i don’t worry about the rules here that much bc i don’t think they’re unreasonable but its just bizarre that one side culture in general can justify death, destruction, Nazism and fascist tendencies all in the name of “fighting fascism”
They don't support authoritarianism, which is why we need to have public executions of TV hosts who don't support going war, prosecute political opponents, no fly lists with no due process, and we obviously need to check papers to ban people who didn't take the injections we told them to.

BTW, these same people thought it was "authoritarian" to even have a border and not let ISIS, cartel members and MS13 move here just 3 years ago, and these same people who got multiple shots and boosters and want anybody who didn't get them banned from public, are now in majority support of going to war with a nuclear super power.
 
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