Russia/Ukraine Megathread V5

[GhostZ06]

I imagine Poland will have easy access to MIGs, no?

They have 23-30 mig-29s currently. They will be phased out for F-35s

 

[GhostZ06]

The U.S. military has been very active in delivering and otherwise facilitating the shipment of military aid to Ukraine, even before Russia launched its invasion. This includes various air defense systems, especially different types of shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles, also known as man-portable air-defense systems (MANPADS). In addition, American officials have made clear that there is a heavy emphasis on sending weapons and equipment that Ukrainian forces are already familiar with, an idea The War Zone had earlier explained the merits of. The core idea behind that philosophy is that this will make it faster and easier for Ukraine's military to actively put what it receives to use in combat. Ukraine's ground-based air defenses have been essential in preventing Russian forces from gaining air superiority over the country after more than three weeks of fighting.

Beyond all this, it's still unclear what systems specifically may ultimately be transferred to Ukraine. The SA-8 Gecko is the only specific system that the Journal's sources named as being among the planned deliveries to Ukrainian forces. The SA-8, also known by the Russian nomenclature 9K33 Osa, is a wheeled short-range surface-to-air missile system. DIA's MSIC is known to have at least one example of this system in its inventory.

Still, it seems plausible, if not probable that if the U.S. government has decided to dig into its FME stocks to help Ukraine and that it will consider transferring relevant systems from across the entire enterprise, not just from within DIA or the Army. The U.S. Air Force alone is known to have additional examples of the SA-8, as well as other types that are currently in Ukrainian service, like the SA-13 and the SA-15 Gauntlet. The latter two systems, also known by the Russian nomenclature 9K35 Strela-10 and 9K332 Tor-M2E, are both tracked short-range air defense systems.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...-defense-systems-are-headed-to-ukraine-report


If the rumors are true, the UA is very quietly giving us some of those more modern russian Air defense systems to us in return.

 

[Badr Hari]

Can any of the russian speakers here explain to us the alleged beef between Kadirov and Shoigu???

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Lol but Poland is worried it will be invaded? What's going on here? Russia is losing so bad that we're all so worried about them getting to Poland. Just lol.

Everyone in that region should be wary. Putin has made it clear he's willing to declare war to regain territory they lost long ago.

 

[deadon]

Poland has like 50 armored brigades a lot of them with very very modern Leperod 2s.

Also got a lot of combat Experience in Afghanistan, also poland operates some pretty nasty SEAD missiles that we sold them.

Im not doubting how capable Poland is. What I'm saying is fighting a nato country is a red line right?

To add, we've been told Russia won't even win in Ukraine so why would they or how would they go after Poland?

Doing anything to Poland would mean ww3 right? It's a nato country. But again, we've been told Russia is done and can't win in Ukraine so whats with the nonsense the media is pushing now?

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Lol in knots now.
So this doesn't show fear? If this would cause ww3 then what's the point in rmgetting a military ready?


Russia knows what will happen if they went into nato countries right? So why the prep? Optics that's why. Your media is moving the goal posts.

What goalposts? It's a clear military invasion right down the middle of the posts.

 

[deadon]

Everyone in that region should be wary. Putin has made it clear he's willing to declare war to regain territory they lost long ago.

Ok I gotta get off this merry-go-round. The spin is too much.

Again, we've been told Russia is losing in Ukraine. They're short of supplies and their military is taking on major deaths. Their military is weak and can't do shit. They will lose in Ukraine.

This is what we're being told. Oh yeah and putin is looking for a out lol. But now he's going to move into other countries? With what military? I thought Russia can't even invade Ukraine.

I really wish people would make up their minds.

 

[MMA Time Soldier]

It's not name calling. Just very obvious observations I have made of your mentally disabled ass.

Tough words. Typical white privilege soy boy.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Well they lost a insanely Rare T-80um2 in the conflict. Aka the black eagle.

Spoiler

I'm sure it's rare but if it's a "one off" why does it look like two or three in a row in the picture?

 

[GhostZ06]

Im not doubting how capable Poland is. What I'm saying is fighting a nato country is a red line right?

To add, we've been told Russia won't even win in Ukraine so why would they or how would they go after Poland?

Doing anything to Poland would mean ww3 right? It's a natural country. But again, we've been told Russia is done and can't win in Ukraine so whats with the nonsense the media is pushing now?

100% consider there is a huge number of US trooper there and Poland has been begging us to set up a military base there(pretty sure we built a small one there, might turn into a small airbase). From what ive heard we are rather liked there.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Im not doubting how capable Poland is. What I'm saying is fighting a nato country is a red line right?

To add, we've been told Russia won't even win in Ukraine so why would they or how would they go after Poland?

Doing anything to Poland would mean ww3 right? It's a natural country. But again, we've been told Russia is done and can't win in Ukraine so whats with the nonsense the media is pushing now?

Who is saying Russia won't win a long, drawn out war in Ukraine?

Most experts and commentary I've read is that it's simply going worse for Russia than Russia would have expected.

Where is your assertion coming from?

 

[MMA Time Soldier]

Wasted!

Tough situation for Latvians

 

[GhostZ06]

I'm sure it's rare but if it's a "one off" why does it look like two or three in a row in the picture?

Looks like another T-80U.

Based on the picture they still are not operating tanks properly

 

[MMA Time Soldier]

Who is saying Russia won't win a long, drawn out war in Ukraine?

Most experts and commentary I've read is that it's simply going worse for Russia than Russia would have expected.

Where is your assertion coming from?

There have been a bunch of people on here who have said that Russia is losing the war. Like the guy with the Ukranian wife, name escapes me right now.

 

[deadon]

What goalposts? It's a clear military invasion right down the middle of the posts.

This is what I read on here today.
" putin is looking for a out"
"Russia is losing"
"Russia is running out of missiles"
"Russia is getting crushed by sanctions"
"Russias military is running out of ammo and food"

But now all the sudden they have the power to move into other countries? Cmon guy, people need to open their eyes and question what the media is telling you.

 

[MMA Time Soldier]

This is what I read on here today.
" putin is looking for a out"
"Russia is losing"
"Russia is running out of missiles"
"Russia is getting crushed by sanctions"
"Russias military is running out of ammo and food"

But now all the sudden they have the power to move into other countries? Cmon guy, people need to open their eyes and question what the media is telling you.

Yup plenty on here have been saying that Russia is losing.

 

[2fast2see]

 

[deadon]

Who is saying Russia won't win a long, drawn out war in Ukraine?

Most experts and commentary I've read is that it's simply going worse for Russia than Russia would have expected.

Where is your assertion coming from?

Lol is it, "Russia won't have any power to do anything because of sanctions and a beat military? Or they're going to win a long drawn out war?

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Lol is it, "Russia won't have any power to do anything because of sanctions and a beat military? Or they're going to win a long drawn out war?

Well where's that from?

 

[deadon]

100% consider there is a huge number of US trooper there and Poland has been begging us to set up a military base there(pretty sure we built a small one there, might turn into a small airbase). From what ive heard we are rather liked there.

Spot on.