International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V14

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and again no matter how much you try to spin it it still dumb and proves my point

nato is not an open organization that has to accept new members, they do it by choice.

even if those former soviet republics wanted to join, they could not without nato seeking new members aka looking to expand.

so nato is expanding east and getting closer to russian border, which means they are actively provoking russia.

It's not spin dimballer...you don't have to twist yourself into knots just accept that Russians would leave Russia behind and join NATO given the chance....Russia has to literally kill them to prevent them from leaving

I'm not going to explain this again...NATO is not expanding its simply former Russian states running west....
 
Typical American, unwilling to accept responsibility for their actions, and influencing Ukraine to continue the war when it wasn't in their best interest.
Typical arrogant westerner, thinking we have that sway over them. Also I outlined some actual realities of this war. Read my last post and learn something for once
 
It's not spin dimballer...you don't have to twist yourself into knots just accept that Russians would leave Russia behind and join NATO given the chance....Russia has to literally kill them to prevent them from leaving

I'm not going to explain this again...NATO is not expanding its simply former Russian states running west....

just cause you repeat same nonsense over and over again don't make it true.

so once again those former soviet republics can't join nato if nato is not looking to expand. its not a open membership organization.

by bringing in new members from the east, nato is expanding east and openly provoking russia.

russia (then soviet union) had an agreement with nato that nato will not expand east after german unification

nato has violated that agreement and been expanding ever since
 
Typical American, unwilling to accept responsibility for their actions, and influencing Ukraine to continue the war when it wasn't in their best interest.

When this is all over we will be dealing with Ukranian terrorists just like we created Islamic terrorists when we meddled in the middle east.
 
Typical arrogant westerner, thinking we have that sway over them. Also I outlined some actual realities of this war. Read my last post and learn something for once
J-J-J-JR learn something? Everyone in here has spent way too much time trying to educate this guy. He obviously can’t grasp it and is completely ignorant to how Russia operates.
 








Just saw a video of two Russians on a motorcycle get blown apart by a drone! They were going flat out, but the drone was faster.


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They’re inching along and just like Bakhmut they will take it. I have realized that Bakhmut and Aadivika are Russia settling for peace. Neither are strategically important for the war but outside the war they are industrial centers that produce resources. This kn d of thing is why Ukraine can not just settle for peace. Russia is just stealing their livelihoods and will later declare war again when the time is right for them
It's also symbolic. They want as much of the donbass as possible.
 
just cause you repeat same nonsense over and over again don't make it true.

so once again those former soviet republics can't join nato if nato is not looking to expand. its not a open membership organization.

by bringing in new members from the east, nato is expanding east and openly provoking russia.

russia (then soviet union) had an agreement with nato that nato will not expand east after german unification

nato has violated that agreement and been expanding ever since
You are a chatbot or someone enough stupid to earn 0,5 rouble before tax per 2 posts.
Liar.
And tell me what treaties had breached your Serbia and fuckin Russia?

When shit hole USSR had removed their hungry troops from East Germany, my small Serbian parasite ....they just had promised not to install next base in East Germany. This promise they fultiffled while your Empire of Lies had to ate Lend Lease and as thank you had declared west as their enemy....after 4 years my little Serbian troll.
When West had paid Ukr money in order to get their nukes back in your shit hole, you, Nazi had called them as enemies..


It is not worth to talk with pathologic liars like you and serbs, Russians.
Ignore list and this is best solution with troll biorobots like you.
 
Yep, Russia going to take it at any cost....could be blessing for UKR if they keep destroying themselves doing it.
In order to demine minefields faschists from Nazi Russia are using shelling of land with 203mm, 152mm, 122mm artillery, with mortar fire and MRLS systems and also are using gliding bombs in attempt to deal with mines.
Nazis are slowly advancing while losses are enough impressive.
 
just cause you repeat same nonsense over and over again don't make it true.

so once again those former soviet republics can't join nato if nato is not looking to expand. its not a open membership organization.

by bringing in new members from the east, nato is expanding east and openly provoking russia.

russia (then soviet union) had an agreement with nato that nato will not expand east after german unification

nato has violated that agreement and been expanding ever since

It's not the west's fault Russia lacks diplomatic influence with their neighbours and has to resort to violence to try and get their way.

NATO is a defensive alliance put together to counter Russian aggression. It's not for Russia to say who can or can't join. The fact Russia does have a habit of attacking it's neighbours very much justifies it's existence and why every country bordering Russia wants to join.
 

Russia court convicts woman for replacing supermarket price tags with antiwar slogans​

A Russian court has convicted an artist and musician for replacing supermarket price tags with antiwar slogans and sentenced her to seven years in prison

By DASHA LITVINOVA Associated Press

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TALLINN, Estonia -- A Russian court on Thursday convicted an artist and musician for swapping supermarket price tags with antiwar messages, sentencing her to seven years in prison in one of the highest-profile cases involving the recent crackdown on free speech.

Sasha Skochilenko was arrested in her native St. Petersburg in April 2022 and charged with spreading false information about the military after replacing price tags with ones that decried Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

“The Russian army bombed an arts schools in Mariupol. Some 400 people were hiding in it from the shelling,” one read. Another said, “Russian conscripts are being sent to Ukraine. Lives of our children are the price of this war.”

A customer at the supermarket who found the slogans reported them to authorities.

Skochilenko's arrest came about a month after authorities adopted a law effectively criminalizing any public expression about the war that deviates from the official Kremlin line. The legislation has been used in a widespread crackdown on opposition politicians, human rights activists and ordinary citizens critical of the Kremlin, with many receiving lengthy prison terms.


Skochilenko, 33, has not denied replacing the price tags but rejected the accusation of spreading knowingly false information.

She did not intend to disparage the military, but rather wanted to stop the fighting, her lawyer Yana Nepovinnova told The Associated Press last week.

“She is a very empathetic, peace-loving person. To her, in general, the word ‘war’ is the most terrible thing imaginable, as is the suffering of people,” Nepovinnova said.

Russian independent news site Mediazona quoted Skochilenko as saying in her final statement in court Thursday that the case against her was “weird and ridiculous" — so much so that officials in the facility where she is detained “open their eyes widely and exclaim: ‘Is this really what people are being imprisoned for now?’”

She also alleged that an investigator working on her case even quit his job, telling one of her lawyers that he “didn't join the Investigative Committee to work on cases like (the one) against Sasha Skochilenko."


Addressing the judge in a courtroom full of supporters, Skochilenko said: “Everyone sees and knows that it's not a terrorist you're trying. You're not trying an extremist. You're not trying an political activist, either. You're trying a pacifist.”


Her supporters applauded, Mediazona reported, adding that after the verdict was announced and Skochilenko was led away, they gathered in a hallway, chanting her name.

Skochilenko has been held for nearly 19 months before her trial, meaning that her overall term will be reduced by more than two years, since every day served in a pre-trial detention center counts as 1.5 days of time served in a regular penal colony.

But she has struggled while in custody due to health problems, including a congenital heart defect, bipolar disorder and celiac disease, requiring a gluten-free diet, her lawyers and her partner have said.

While she was held in St. Petersburg, it was possible for her to get visits from outside doctors, but what will happen if Skochilenko is transferred to a more remote penal colony remains uncertain, said her partner, Sofya Subbotina.


“There's a huge fear that Sasha will end up without medical help,” she added.

Russia’s most prominent human rights group and 2022 Nobel Peace Prize winner, Memorial, has declared Skochilenko a political prisoner.

According to OVD-Info, another prominent rights group that monitors political arrests and provides legal aid, a total of 19,834 Russians have been arrested between Feb. 24, when the war began, and late October 2023 for speaking out or demonstrating against the war.

Nearly 750 people have faced criminal charges for their antiwar stances, and over 8,100 faced petty charges of discrediting the army, punishable by a fine or a short stint in jail.

Long terms have been handed out in the highest-profile cases. Prominent opposition figure Ilya Yashin received 8 1/2 years in prison on similar charges, as has Moscow student activist Dmitry Ivanov. Yashin's colleague on a Moscow municipal council, Alexei Gorinov, got seven years.


Similar sentences were handed to Russians convicted in absentia, like cookbook author Veronika Belotserkovskaya or TV journalist and former lawmaker Alexander Nevzorov and several others.

Also Thursday, opposition politician Vladimir Milov was convicted in absentia of spreading false information about the army and sentenced to eight years. Milov, who once was Russia's deputy energy minister and is now an ally of imprisoned opposition leader Alexei Navalny, has left Russia.

The prosecution in Skochilenko's case had asked for eight years in prison. In an interview with St. Petersburg news outlet Bumaga, the pensioner who reported her to authorities had seemed surprised by that, saying: “For bits of paper, it should have been, of course, less.”


https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...woman-protesting-war-ukraine-latest-104939508
 

Russia court convicts woman for replacing supermarket price tags with antiwar slogans​

A Russian court has convicted an artist and musician for replacing supermarket price tags with antiwar slogans and sentenced her to seven years in prison

By DASHA LITVINOVA Associated Press

wirestory_05b638eb5b175102a2da0758caa6e6e9_16x9.jpg


TALLINN, Estonia -- A Russian court on Thursday convicted an artist and musician for swapping supermarket price tags with antiwar messages, sentencing her to seven years in prison in one of the highest-profile cases involving the recent crackdown on free speech.

Sasha Skochilenko was arrested in her native St. Petersburg in April 2022 and charged with spreading false information about the military after replacing price tags with ones that decried Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

“The Russian army bombed an arts schools in Mariupol. Some 400 people were hiding in it from the shelling,” one read. Another said, “Russian conscripts are being sent to Ukraine. Lives of our children are the price of this war.”

A customer at the supermarket who found the slogans reported them to authorities.

Skochilenko's arrest came about a month after authorities adopted a law effectively criminalizing any public expression about the war that deviates from the official Kremlin line. The legislation has been used in a widespread crackdown on opposition politicians, human rights activists and ordinary citizens critical of the Kremlin, with many receiving lengthy prison terms.


Skochilenko, 33, has not denied replacing the price tags but rejected the accusation of spreading knowingly false information.

She did not intend to disparage the military, but rather wanted to stop the fighting, her lawyer Yana Nepovinnova told The Associated Press last week.

“She is a very empathetic, peace-loving person. To her, in general, the word ‘war’ is the most terrible thing imaginable, as is the suffering of people,” Nepovinnova said.

Russian independent news site Mediazona quoted Skochilenko as saying in her final statement in court Thursday that the case against her was “weird and ridiculous" — so much so that officials in the facility where she is detained “open their eyes widely and exclaim: ‘Is this really what people are being imprisoned for now?’”

She also alleged that an investigator working on her case even quit his job, telling one of her lawyers that he “didn't join the Investigative Committee to work on cases like (the one) against Sasha Skochilenko."


Addressing the judge in a courtroom full of supporters, Skochilenko said: “Everyone sees and knows that it's not a terrorist you're trying. You're not trying an extremist. You're not trying an political activist, either. You're trying a pacifist.”


Her supporters applauded, Mediazona reported, adding that after the verdict was announced and Skochilenko was led away, they gathered in a hallway, chanting her name.

Skochilenko has been held for nearly 19 months before her trial, meaning that her overall term will be reduced by more than two years, since every day served in a pre-trial detention center counts as 1.5 days of time served in a regular penal colony.

But she has struggled while in custody due to health problems, including a congenital heart defect, bipolar disorder and celiac disease, requiring a gluten-free diet, her lawyers and her partner have said.

While she was held in St. Petersburg, it was possible for her to get visits from outside doctors, but what will happen if Skochilenko is transferred to a more remote penal colony remains uncertain, said her partner, Sofya Subbotina.


“There's a huge fear that Sasha will end up without medical help,” she added.

Russia’s most prominent human rights group and 2022 Nobel Peace Prize winner, Memorial, has declared Skochilenko a political prisoner.

According to OVD-Info, another prominent rights group that monitors political arrests and provides legal aid, a total of 19,834 Russians have been arrested between Feb. 24, when the war began, and late October 2023 for speaking out or demonstrating against the war.


Nearly 750 people have faced criminal charges for their antiwar stances, and over 8,100 faced petty charges of discrediting the army, punishable by a fine or a short stint in jail.

Long terms have been handed out in the highest-profile cases. Prominent opposition figure Ilya Yashin received 8 1/2 years in prison on similar charges, as has Moscow student activist Dmitry Ivanov. Yashin's colleague on a Moscow municipal council, Alexei Gorinov, got seven years.


Similar sentences were handed to Russians convicted in absentia, like cookbook author Veronika Belotserkovskaya or TV journalist and former lawmaker Alexander Nevzorov and several others.

Also Thursday, opposition politician Vladimir Milov was convicted in absentia of spreading false information about the army and sentenced to eight years. Milov, who once was Russia's deputy energy minister and is now an ally of imprisoned opposition leader Alexei Navalny, has left Russia.

The prosecution in Skochilenko's case had asked for eight years in prison. In an interview with St. Petersburg news outlet Bumaga, the pensioner who reported her to authorities had seemed surprised by that, saying: “For bits of paper, it should have been, of course, less.”



https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...woman-protesting-war-ukraine-latest-104939508

How pathetic is that... obey Putin or else.
 
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