International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V13

[SandisLL]

Dombrovskis and Urzula had signed 1,50b EUR macro financial assistance for November 2023th....

In total such packages had been 20b in 2022 and are supposed to be 18b in 2023th.
These are real money transfers.

Ukr usually are selling 300-600m USD each week to keep grivna printing machine to work.
While audits in depth are asked to be done .. LOL.

 

[SRN]

 

[Rholk]

 

[GhostZ06]

20+ helicopters destroyed in first ATACMS strikes.

there ka-52 fleet is getting ripped apart. They should pull them out and switch to Hinds and havoc, and actually use havoc for theyre orginal roll.

The new ATGM they rolled out is really good though

 

[Strychnine]

 

[SandisLL]

there ka-52 fleet is getting ripped apart. They should pull them out and switch to Hinds and havoc, and actually use havoc for theyre orginal roll.

The new ATGM they rolled out is really good though

If will not help a lot cos looks that Ukr had get something .....
While these missiles really are good.

BTW oldest ATACMS version was damn cool till today.
Very huge damages with 3 missiles used.

 

[Limbo Pete]

But @San Marino assured us that this is all part of the plan

 

[Bacco]

It's obvious Putin rushing to make a 200 billion dollar deal with China to keep his country afloat. He's even willing to pump oil along China's silk road. Xi could end up controlling a massive part of Russian economy. He's playing Putin like a stradivarius violin. He's a pro at using Chinese huge technology advancements an power but Putin ends up the biggest loser.

I'm not sure Putin is being played, more like he literally does'nt have any other option

From Putin's perspective whatever he will end up concede to China, still does'nt outweight the fact if he try to do this war alone he's fucked
Not fucked like the Ukranian Army would march on Moscow and shot him, but fucked like if he retire from Ukraine his days are likely over

At same time while China is gaining some good from this, it's also something with negative effects for them
Have to stay at Russia's side damaged their business relationship with west, their big ally did'nt managed to success at something they would like to do too, their big ally is looking weak wich weaken the image of their whole coalition too (specially when was supposed to be unstoppable big deal badass)

When you put it like that, Russia have to make the partnership as desirable as possible since their fuckup put China on an uncomfortable situation

Even if China itself is locked on that marriage, as they can't leave Russia alone or they become alone themselves

It's like a sad marriage of two people that can't afford to live alone lol

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- China pulled the checkmate on the nation of the chess-masters, It's actually a genious move.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

I'm not sure Putin is being played, more like he literally does'nt have any other option

From Putin's perspective whatever he will end up concede to China, still does'nt outweight the fact if he try to do this war alone he's fucked
Not fucked like the Ukranian Army would march on Moscow and shot him, but fucked like if he retire from Ukraine his days are likely over

At same time while China is gaining some good from this, it's also something with negative effects for them
Have to stay at Russia's side damaged their business relationship with west, their big ally did'nt managed to success at something they would like to do too, their big ally is looking weak wich weaken the image of their whole coalition too (specially when was supposed to be unstoppable big deal badass)

When you put it like that, Russia have to make the partnership as desirable as possible since their fuckup put China on an uncomfortable situation

Even if China itself is locked on that marriage, as they can't leave Russia alone or they become alone themselves

It's like a sad marriage of two people that can't afford to live alone lol

- Putin is one of the richests mans alive, and it's a the end of his life now.

 

[Cid]

Reluctancy of Germany to supply Taurus maybe is easy to understand ...
German based companies still are buying Russian LNG.

For example SEFE GmbH is buying Russian LNG and on paper selling to India.

Taurus would be the first bunker buster for Ukraine.

Germans too scared that their missile will be the one to kill Kerch bridge.

 

[Rholk]

The giant armored columns weren't working, so lets try 1 at a time..

 

[Hog-train]

We just saw how much some old missiles can change the tide. With a few of the more modern type the bridge to Crimea can be destroyed halfway to Russia. The F-16's aren't there yet and there's a lot more modern weaponry that can be provided to Ukraine. It's within the realm of possibility that Ukraine can spend the winter months using long range missiles across all the territory Russia has claimed before they parachute in on skis to hunt down the stragglers.

The US did not give the longer range ATACMS. They gave a neutered one that only had cluster munitions as opposed to a single more powerful warhead as well as have half the range. On top of that, they only gave them only a few of them.

I don't understand why the US is taking so long and then giving them neutered weapons.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

The giant armored columns weren't working, so lets try 1 at a time..

I guess that was going to be the break through armour, imagine how confident you would driving that after seeing 100’s of other wrecked vehicles on your way there. These guys are truly a unique kind of stupid

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- They got that from the Grey Ghost episode of Batman - The animated series!

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

The US did not give the longer range ATACMS. They gave a neutered one that only had cluster munitions as opposed to a single more powerful warhead as well as have half the range. On top of that, they only gave them only a few of them.

I don't understand why the US is taking so long and then giving them neutered weapons.

Too bad for sure with delay however they will now be getting them on a regular basis not just the handful they have now.

 

[Hdfi]

WW3 isn't going to happen global warming is an inevitability.

WW3 would solve the global warming problem via nuclear winter.

 

[Rod1]

The US did not give the longer range ATACMS. They gave a neutered one that only had cluster munitions as opposed to a single more powerful warhead as well as have half the range. On top of that, they only gave them only a few of them.

I don't understand why the US is taking so long and then giving them neutered weapons.

Neutered is the incorrect word, it has less range because it has less fuel and it has less fuel because it has way more bombs.

The ones they got killed between 10-20 helicopters

 

[DEVILsSON]

I heard Russians forgot to stack tires on their helicopters...and got hit with ATACAMS....rough times...

 

[ferrisjso]

WW3 would solve the global warming problem via nuclear winter.

Simple google search

"And even though temperatures would drop, a nuclear winter would not reverse the effects of global warming. It would exacerbate some effects, including ocean acidification and damage to the ozone layer."

The greenhouse effect is time released so if we had nuclear war tommorow all warming that has been locked in would still happen though the baseline being changed would be cooler. There is no stopping what has been locked in if we do climate action today the warming will stop in the 2060s.