International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V13

[LeonardoBjj]

We had meth here in ww2

Interesting story thats related

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimo_Koivunen

"Aimo Allan Koivunen (IPA: [ɑi̯mo ɑlːɑn koi̯ʋunen]), (17 October 1917 – 12 August 1989) was a Finnish soldier in the Continuation War and the first documented case of a soldier overdosing on methamphetamine during combat."

- I remember a description from the soldiers. The adversaries of the germans, got surprised they didnt tire.

Years ago i read about a guy serving in Afghanistan, i think the guy was a PMC, they used to sell superdroll or similars back in 2006\8. He said he got cramps because of it, and made working guarding convoys a real hell.

 

[lsa]

so you just ignore actual nazis fighting for kiev regime and just go "but, but russia"

presence of nazis in ukrainian politics was even reported in msm, but suddenly it all disappeared in february 2022. all of a sudden all thise nazis had a change of heart and became democracy loving freedom fighters...

No I dont ignore that.
I recognize that there was and is Nazis in Ukraine. No questions about it.
How ever thats a Ukrainian problem... Not Russia's.
There is also Nazis in Sweden, Germany and Norway and many other countries, should Russia invade?
And talking about Norway did you read my link about the Nazi fighting for Russia in Ukraine? I guess not...

Its a joke to send Nazis to denazify a country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusich_Group

But I guess its okay, I mean Nazis if they fight for Russia.

 

[lsa]

its a military conflict... there's gonna be civilian casualties

you think its a video game and 100% of civilian casualties can be avoided? and if civilian happen to be killed its "proof" they are deliberately targeting civilians?

how gullible can you be?

"he just gonna go after strategic military targets and try to keep civilian casualties at minimum."

That is what you are claiming.
Do you think they are doing a good job?

No, I think them bombing and destroying +1000 schools, hospitals, apartment buildings, town squares filled with people are proof that they do go after civilian targets.

I know there is civilian casualties in war.
I also know Russia never cared much for people lives.
And I dont believe they try to keep civilian casualties to a minimum.
I believe they hit power and water to try and break the civilians, and put pressure on Ukraine.

I believe your claim is BS, and you have no proof to say otherwise.

 

[GhostZ06]

You'd need them flying constant Combat Air Patrols (C.A.P.) to stop the drones. Something tells me that..

A: Russia is just going to tell the people in Moscow to STFU and take it

or

B: They just don't have the supplies to fly constant C.A.P.

I fully expect them to make use of mig-31 more then likely. Even the USAF had issues dealing with mig-25(though F-15s did kinda F them up a bit an those were with old crappy sparrows). There is 1 account of an F-16 shooting down a mig-25 with aim-120.

Then again, those were mig-25s, not mig31 piloted by Russians. Mig-31s can sustain theyre top speeds a lot better then mig-25, and will simply fly away lol.

 

[PEB]

US military guys as Ukraine foreign volunteer military running Russians out of trenches.

 

[San Marino]

Not good for the conflict:
. Russia working on big new North Korea arms deals, U.S. says : NPR
For an Army that has been demoralized for the past year and a half, Russia is resilient and just keeps coming.

 

[grimballer]

"he just gonna go after strategic military targets and try to keep civilian casualties at minimum."

That is what you are claiming.
Do you think they are doing a good job?

No, I think them bombing and destroying +1000 schools, hospitals, apartment buildings, town squares filled with people are proof that they do go after civilian targets.

I know there is civilian casualties in war.
I also know Russia never cared much for people lives.
And I dont believe they try to keep civilian casualties to a minimum.
I believe they hit power and water to try and break the civilians, and put pressure on Ukraine.

I believe your claim is BS, and you have no proof to say otherwise.

and you been bombarded by msm propaganda and now just keep parroting their narrative

you got brainwashed into thinking its a fight between good and evil and russians just want to inflict as much unnecessary damage as possible just cause they're evil and poor ukrainians just wanna live in peace and democracy

 

[SandisLL]

From the report...

Military spending for this year seems to be already exhausted at halfway through the year.
That's not a good thing.

Yes, however Putin most likely just will increase defense budget and order to print more roubles. He does have forex reserves at least till march 2024 th and already had rised base key interest rate till 12% ( it is insane for businsses and banks ).
So there sadly also a lot of very impactful ppl in russia and belarus are irl very rich old specimens so sanctions and currency exchange rate or inflation is last thing they will care about.

 

[grimballer]

No I dont ignore that.
I recognize that there was and is Nazis in Ukraine. No questions about it.
How ever thats a Ukrainian problem... Not Russia's.
There is also Nazis in Sweden, Germany and Norway and many other countries, should Russia invade?
And talking about Norway did you read my link about the Nazi fighting for Russia in Ukraine? I guess not...

Its a joke to send Nazis to denazify a country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusich_Group

But I guess its okay, I mean Nazis if they fight for Russia.

you're comparing apples and oranges...

theres a difference between finding couple of individuals with those views and having actual nazis in government and used by nato backed kiev regime to terrorize russian speaking populations in the east.

so yeah, it's ukrainian problem if they keep their nazis in check. when they use them to terrorize ethnic minorities, its no longer just their problem.

 

[Rholk]

Some more succesful intercept by legendary Russian AA systems


in all seriousness, Ukraine has been stepping up the drone strikes this week.

 

[Rational Poster]

you're comparing apples and oranges...

theres a difference between finding couple of individuals with those views and having actual nazis in government and used by nato backed kiev regime to terrorize russian speaking populations in the east.

so yeah, it's ukrainian problem if they keep their nazis in check. when they use them to terrorize ethnic minorities, its no longer just their problem.

(Except you know, at the time of Russia's invasion the fighting had ceased already)

 

[San Marino]

Btw some info on foreign legion, was mainly interested in pay

https://ildu.com.ua/#faq

600 dollars a month non combat, 1200 for danger zone and 3300 for combat role

(Explains heavy presence of south american guys)

Foreign Legion? Would those not be called mercenaries? What combat experience do guys from South America have?
$3,300 a month for combat duty? Heck, the ex-Blackwater (now Constellis) guys would be jumping at the chance. At least a 6-month tour. At one time the most powerful mercenary Army in the world.

 

[Cole train]

Foreign Legion? Would those not be called mercenaries? What combat experience do guys from South America have?
$3,300 a month for combat duty? Heck, the ex-Blackwater (now Constellis) guys would be jumping at the chance. At least a 6-month tour. At one time the most powerful mercenary Army in the world.

Blackwaters guys were making 100k to 200k a year.They would not move a muscle for 3k a month

Guys in south america make about 3x to 5x their avg pay in ukr so its worth to them

 

[Rod1]

What combat experience do guys from South America have?.

Im guessing tons of COIN training from fighting drug cartels and guerrillas.

 

[SandisLL]

you're comparing apples and oranges...

theres a difference between finding couple of individuals with those views and having actual nazis in government and used by nato backed kiev regime to terrorize russian speaking populations in the east.

so yeah, it's ukrainian problem if they keep their nazis in check. when they use them to terrorize ethnic minorities, its no longer just their problem.

Russian speaking population always does have opportunity to relocate to Russia and don't dream that Matushka is so safe from scenario they are using.
Chinesse population in Russian Federation is growing quickly, also business owners and mandarin speakers in Russia should be protected by China's government.
Iranian and Pakistani origin ppl and businesses in Russian Federation too should be protected even if ground forces will be needed to used and unlike with west they doesn't fear from Russia.

 

[San Marino]

Every single thing in this post is complete horse shit…

Dude, every post you don't agree with is complete horse shit. Including your own. ...and you still know very little about this conflict. You are just going on what your little friends tell you and the progressive media. You always default to insults and ridicule when you don't have something smart to say.

 

[San Marino]

Blackwaters guys were making 100k to 200k a year. They would not move a muscle for 3k a month

That would make it $8,000 a month.
So, those are now 2 issues Ukraine is failing on:
1. It makes its own soldiers pay for their medical treatment.
2. It can't hire enough mercenaries at a higher cost.
...and yet, it is receiving billions from the US in money and armament. Where is all the (cash) money going? Someone is getting rich from this war, and it is not the average soldier fighting in the front. There has been no transparency from the Ukrainian or the US side of the house. Much of this money remains unaccounted for. Zelensky sure as shit is syphoning money for his personal account, as is Joe Biden.

 

[grimballer]

Russian speaking population always does have opportunity to relocate to Russia and don't dream that Matushka is so safe from scenario they are using.
Chinesse population in Russian Federation is growing quickly, also business owners and mandarin speakers in Russia should be protected by China's government.
Iranian and Pakistani origin ppl and businesses in Russian Federation too should be protected even if ground forces will be needed to used and unlike with west they doesn't fear from Russia.

so you condone ethnic cleansing? good to know!

the difference here is russia isn't trying to expel ethnic minorities living in russia.

 

[grimballer]

(Except you know, at the time of Russia's invasion the fighting had ceased already)

just cause msm wasn't talking about it doesn't mean it wasn't happening.

nato backed kiev regime was constantly violating the minsk agreement and shelling ethnic russians in donbas.

even former german leader admitted that those minsk agreement weren't signed in good faith and it was just used to buy kiev regime to arm themselves for a major offensive

 

[San Marino]

- Meth,steroids?

More like crystal methamphetamine and cocaine. Also, anything to help you stay awake and alert.
One of the many reasons Iraqi soldiers who were shot once or twice would not go down.
They would if you put one round in the chest and one in the head.
also: "...don't run, you'll just die tired."