International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V10

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https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2023-04-04-he-was-an-officer-close-to-putin-–-reveals-details-from-inside-the-kremlin.H1-nGWEtbn.html
A former FSO officer who defected last year has come forward with information about Putin (he worked fairly closely with the President for many years and has taken many trips with him).

Apparently Putin never uses a cellphone or browses the internet. He has videolink and landlines set up everywhere he goes. He is very self-isolating and has grown more paranoid over time: "Putin does not use the internet or mobile phone. He only receives information from his inner circle, which means that he lives in an information vacuum. All food is inspected and tested by a special team. On trips, firefighters and engineers accompany them to examine all the premises, he says and continues: "The president has a phone booth that we take with us on every trip abroad. It is a cube about 2.5 meters high that you can talk in without risking being intercepted by foreign intelligence services."

On the flip side, he does not believe Putin has any serious health problems, apart from those normally assosciated with age.

I suppose none of this is particularly surprising, but it's the first time I've heard it from a source who was close enough to Putin to know him personally.

This guy's whole story. Pretty interesting.

 
I doubt it will be another Kharkiv like situation with sweeping gains because Russia was caught completely flat footed with that. Russia does dumb things, but they do learn.

Now they will be more dug into their defensive positions as before they were on the attack and very overextended.

However, Ukraine will also now have more modern weapons as well as better training.

I think the Russians are relying on a defense in depth to bleed the impetus out of any future Ukrainian counter offensive , that the time it takes for the Ukrainians to kill dug in mobiks and break the lines will allow the Russians to employ their reserves and the airpower it would seem they are conserving , I'm not at all convinced that we have provided sufficient weaponry for Ukraine to make and sustain a breakthrough .
 
I think the Russians are relying on a defense in depth to bleed the impetus out of any future Ukrainian counter offensive , that the time it takes for the Ukrainians to kill dug in mobiks and break the lines will allow the Russians to employ their reserves and the airpower it would seem they are conserving , I'm not at all convinced that we have provided sufficient weaponry for Ukraine to make and sustain a breakthrough .

They will rely on their artillery to kill tanks since its actually only part that works well and ukr has bad time countering it.Basically back to WW2 tactics

Before harkiv ukr took a month to kill logistic chain for this reason alone most likely with himars to set it up, hence i would like ukr to have more long range stuff
 
The same NATO that Finland joined today, and that they've been sharing several borders with already for decades lol

like putin said ukraine was a red line and westerners still provoked him with talks of nato expansion.

now its a new reality where new world war might happen and nukes might be used

joining nato won't help if it gets to that point
 
The Finns have spent time both directly and indirectly under the Russian yoke , given that the current Russian ruler has published a revanchist manifesto and acted upon it the Finns would seem to acting entirely rationally .

not really they just getting themselves involved into russia v nato conflict and will have russian nukes pointed at them for no reason
 
That's one way to look at it.

The other would be that Russia had all winter to expand their positions in hopes of blunting a Ukrainian spring offensive. To that effect, Russia still hasn't taken this strategically insignificant city and it has cost them upwards of 70,000 lives and countless equipment (i know, you'll just say this is fake because it hurts your feelings).

Russians couldn't have fucked the dog any worse over the past few months. I'm sure you'll be taking another leave of absence from this thread in short order.

yeah, winter was warmer than usual... thats why europeans didn't freeze and russians didnt make big moves on the frontlines.

they did take big chunk of territory in and around bakhmut that western media pretends "is no big deal" and ukraine is "winning"

btw is russian economy gonna collapse soon? how about putin being taken down in a coup?

western media said it, so it must be true
 
Weird, was Georgia gonna join NATO when Russia attacked them? How about Chechnya? Yeah...

I like too how you make it seem as though NATO can just annex nations against their will to "move closer to Russia's border". NATO isn't a sovereign nation, it's a group of nations with an agreement to protect one another. No nation can be forced to join against their will. You want to remove the rights of sovereign nations to join because it "makes Russia nervous". Straight up the most ass backward line of reasoning on this subject LOL.

It's like if the world was a neighborhood, and on one side of the 'hood is Russia and a few blocks away is the majority of NATO countries that Russia doesn't like. And some of the residents of the houses around Russia start to go to a few parties at the NATO houses and realize they kinda like the NATO families. And they think about maybe joining up with that NATO club. And Russia wants to be able to tell these people they can't join up with the NATO crew because Russia doesn't get along with NATO. How about...fuck you? Sovereign nations don't have to answer to Russia.

you forgot the part about democratically elected president being removed in a western backed coup in ukraine and nato having history of unprovoked attacks against other sovereign nations.

as for nations joining "at their own free wiil", thats bs.

nations (especially smaller ones) are coerced to join.

its a "club" you have to join to be part of "free western world" where you're told how to run your own country
 
I don't condone terrorism at all. Just pointing out that actions have consequences. Putin has fucked his people so now they're fighting back. It was going to happen at some point.

and same can be said for zelensky...
 
, I'm not at all convinced that we have provided sufficient weaponry for Ukraine to make and sustain a breakthrough .
Sure that you are correct....
It all is easily to see and looks that west wants to cede to chinesse puppets part of ukraine...
Orcs will be " happy and poor, while if vodka, sausages and cigarettes are awailable and daily propaganda dosage is provided orc is happy. Rulers also should ensure that there will not be sugar and soap stamps...
 
What has Russia actually won though?

In this war they've lost hundreds of thousands of men to combat and those fleeing the country. They've lost the flagship of their black sea fleet. They've lost their wealthiest fuel customers. They've lost all their super yachts in european ports, and lots of their money laundering properties in London. They've had a massive decline in international relations with most of the world. They've lost tens of thousands of military assets and gained 1300km of new NATO border and a domestic terrorism problem with bloggers getting killed by exploding statues.

They've taken a few meters of rubble in a now totally destroyed town.

Am I missing something here?

How is Russia benefiting from any of this? Does the rubble of Bakmut contain some magic supply of gold only the Russians know about?

slow down, youre mixing your talking points...

what you short or long term?

short term = they winning this war
long term = they defend their national interests and are creating a new multipolar world thats not dominated by the west
 
I doubt it will be another Kharkiv like situation with sweeping gains because Russia was caught completely flat footed with that. Russia does dumb things, but they do learn.

Now they will be more dug into their defensive positions as before they were on the attack and very overextended.

However, Ukraine will also now have more modern weapons as well as better training.

Russia definitely does learn, but one important thing to note is that the Russian and Ukrainian armies that started the war are very different from the armies fighting now: there has been a heavy overturn of personnel on both sides, meaning that a lot of the valuable experience gained in the war has disappeared again due to heavy casualties. It is thus not inconcievable that Russia could be caught flat-footed somewhere again, even if the senior command has learned some lessons, because a lot of the guys on the ground are completely green.

But I agree that a slog currently looks like the more likely scenario.
 
Russia definitely does learn, but one important thing to note is that the Russian and Ukrainian armies that started the war are very different from the armies fighting now: there has been a heavy overturn of personnel on both sides, meaning that a lot of the valuable experience gained in the war has disappeared again due to heavy casualties. It is thus not inconcievable that Russia could be caught flat-footed somewhere again, even if the senior command has learned some lessons, because a lot of the guys on the ground are completely green.

But I agree that a slog currently looks like the more likely scenario.

Well I don't think it'll be this incremental gains/losses attrition either once they actually do start their counter offensive. The M2 Bradleys and Strykers are here and the tanks are trickling in. Also the longer range missiles for the HIMARS should be all coming in by now.

Once the command prepares the specific plan to counter attack, we'll see more decisive gains. I've read the planning can take a month, but that could have started already.
 
Gameplan for example how will look Luhansk oblastj future if Russia will conquer and keep this area.
1. Infrastructure will be restored for russian federation's taxpayers money...
Orcs will be proud and will not protest at all. Will take next vodka portion and with pride watch next daily propaganda session.
2. Contracts for reconstruction will get companies directly or indirectly owned by nice oligarchs ...ie... good rich and smart uncles....
3. Construction materials will be produced in companies directly or indirectly owned by oligarchs...
4. Selling companies the same...
5. Sub contractors approx the same....

6. Orcs with happiness and pride will work for cheap cos ruSSia is great......
7. Mining industry will be ceded to nice uncles...
Orcs will work for cheap and will be happy...
8. Where to sell production will order clients not some body in Kremlin...
LOL....
" empire that should be "....appendix to deliver commodities to real colony owners...under master's rules...

Be happy...
Btw term orc, pleb, plancton, ants, " infantry " isn't some modern stuff. It had been used since 1990 ies when in ruSSia appeared wild capitalism .....by their own elite, businessmans etc kind of ppl and for a reason btw...
 
slow down, youre mixing your talking points...

what you short or long term?

short term = they winning this war
long term = they defend their national interests and are creating a new multipolar world thats not dominated by the west

I'm not mixing anything. I just want to know what the big picture is.

How are you defining the short term? A month after the invasion Russia held 27% of Ukrainian territory. That's now down to 18%. Maybe back up to 18.1% now they've taken a few more blocks of Bakhmut. How is that "winning?"

Long term. - How is a future of isolationism in the national interest of the Russian people? Nobody wants to join the russo-sphere aside from the most corrupt politicians because Russia doesn't exactly market itself well. At least during the soviet days they could sell the idea of political idealism. Now they're just another capitalist country with less checks and balances than most Western or Asian countries. Considering their demographics problems, I don't see how throwing away young mens lives, and having others flee the country is going to be of any long term benefit to Russia.
 
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