International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V10

[PEB]

Chudville is cheering Deathsantis for saying the Ukraine war is nothing more then a dispute over boarders. These are the same people who wore shirts that said I would vote for Putin over Biden. Not the brightest Chuds in the world.

 

[San Marino]

The overall Wagner Group offensive on Bakhmut additionally appears to be nearing culmination.

Ukrainian military sources have noted a markedly decreased number of attacks in and around Bakhmut, particularly over the last few days. Wagner Group financier Prigozhin has recently emphasized the toll that a reported lack of ammunition is having on Wagner’s ability to pursue offensives on Bakhmut and stated on March 15 that due to ammunition shortages and heavy fighting, Wagner has had to expand its encirclement of Bakhmut. Recent Wagner gains north of Bakhmut suggest that manpower, artillery, and equipment losses in fights for Bakhmut will likely constrain Wagner’s ability to complete a close encirclement of Bakhmut or gain substantial territory in battles for urban areas. The capture of Zalizianske and other similarly small towns north of Bakhmut and east of the E40 highway is extremely unlikely to enhance Wagner’s ability to capture Bakhmut itself or make other operationally significant gains. It therefore is likely that Wagner’s offensive on Bakhmut is increasingly nearing culmination. Russian forces would likely have to commit significant reserves to prevent this culmination. They may be able to do so, as ISW has observed elements of Russian airborne regiments in and around Bakhmut that do not seem to be heavily committed to the fighting at the moment. The Russians might also commit elements of other conventional units, including possibly the 2nd Motorized Rifle Division, or units drawn from elsewhere in the theater. But it seems that the Wagner offensive itself will not be sufficient to seize Bakhmut.

* March 9-15 map of hostilities. Infernal fortress of Bakhmut burns but holds the blow.

 

[PEB]

I just heard online cannot share that the push by Putin in Bukhmut is to show some kind of progress and gain a position to move more directly forward. This is because his powerbase is losing pull over the Russian leadership even though he has the biggest platform Russians are losing faith and the economy is far worst off then the world truly knows.

 

[phoenixikki]

The overall Wagner Group offensive on Bakhmut additionally appears to be nearing culmination.

Ukrainian military sources have noted a markedly decreased number of attacks in and around Bakhmut, particularly over the last few days. Wagner Group financier Prigozhin has recently emphasized the toll that a reported lack of ammunition is having on Wagner’s ability to pursue offensives on Bakhmut and stated on March 15 that due to ammunition shortages and heavy fighting, Wagner has had to expand its encirclement of Bakhmut. Recent Wagner gains north of Bakhmut suggest that manpower, artillery, and equipment losses in fights for Bakhmut will likely constrain Wagner’s ability to complete a close encirclement of Bakhmut or gain substantial territory in battles for urban areas. The capture of Zalizianske and other similarly small towns north of Bakhmut and east of the E40 highway is extremely unlikely to enhance Wagner’s ability to capture Bakhmut itself or make other operationally significant gains. It therefore is likely that Wagner’s offensive on Bakhmut is increasingly nearing culmination. Russian forces would likely have to commit significant reserves to prevent this culmination. They may be able to do so, as ISW has observed elements of Russian airborne regiments in and around Bakhmut that do not seem to be heavily committed to the fighting at the moment. The Russians might also commit elements of other conventional units, including possibly the 2nd Motorized Rifle Division, or units drawn from elsewhere in the theater. But it seems that the Wagner offensive itself will not be sufficient to seize Bakhmut.

* March 9-15 map of hostilities. Infernal fortress of Bakhmut burns but holds the blow.

Honestly I'll just believe when I see it.
Russia supporters have been claiming for what over a month now that Bakhmut is falling?
On the other hand you have Ukraine supporters saying it's not a big deal, no strategic value but Zelensky keeps sending hopeless soldiers to the meat grinder?
Difficult to know what's really happening with so much propaganda covering the truth.

 

[grimballer]

oh yes, 34 convictions in trumps inner circle, and the mueller report findings. people were getting sent to prison for lying for somebody who did no wrong and had nothing to hide. thats great. now do tell us about this legit concern of yours. a handful of registered conservatives got caught trying to illegally vote twice or cast in their vote for their dead mother in laws, and a dead wife one guy (barry morphew) was accused of murdering. the biggest steal by the democrats ever. that totally changes everything.

what ever became of that? how many democrats got hauled off to prison over wrongdoings in the 2020 election? a senile old man with dementia just pulled off the greatest heist in the history of the nation all without leaving a trace of evidence behind, and with all the money that your orange idol grifted from you braindead muppets, the only fraud you have to show for it is a handful of registered conservatives being dragged to court and have pled guilty or were found guilty on fraud related charges.

but we know thats a bunch of bullshit and the deep state conspiracy runs deep. the evidence is out there on hunters mystical laptop. now get out there and go find the fraud. the stolen election isnt going to overturn itself!

mostly sep up by partisan feds...

theres plenty of examples of feds deliberately targeting trump administration and using info they knew were lies to get fisa warrants and spy on him and his team.

they also lied about hunters laptop and called it "russian disinformation" and made sure that story gets censored bu news outlets

of course you're a partisan hack and dont care about any of that cause the other side is being targeted

 

[grimballer]

They seem to think so, given the whole fighting thing they are still doing. No matter how much you screech they should stop defending themselves.

as if you actually care about ukraine...

the entire country could be destroyed but as long as it weakens russia is all that matters, right?

 

[Day Drinking]

as if you actually care about ukraine...

the entire country could be destroyed but as long as it weakens russia is all that matters, right?

Destroyed by losing a war would do it too. As long as it strengthens Russia, that's all that matters right?

 

[calavera2]

mostly sep up by partisan feds...

theres plenty of examples of feds deliberately targeting trump administration and using info they knew were lies to get fisa warrants and spy on him and his team.

they also lied about hunters laptop and called it "russian disinformation" and made sure that story gets censored bu news outlets

of course you're a partisan hack and dont care about any of that cause the other side is being targeted

Grimballs support for Trump is proof enough of trump Russia collusion

 

[SandisLL]

Destroyed by losing a war would do it too. As long as it strengthens Russia, that's all that matters right?

Russians wants to get all Ukraine but without ukrainians unless they will consider that remained are enough suitable for rusification and deUkrainisation.
Morozov and Medvedev long ago had scheduled deNazification in Moldova while Putin might opt to control Moldova via puppet like Lukashenko or via physical annexion and incorporation in Russian federation as oblastj.
Traitors and well paid opposition + provocators and diversants in Moldova are activated with huge $ and russia now 12 months in row is attempting to do false flag actions in order to woke up lethargic gangs in transistria region of Moldova....cos they fear that Moldova might negotiate with them and to get access in EU.....

 

[aries]

The "60,000" Ukrainians encircled in Bahkmut are not in Bahkmut. The pre-war population of the town was just 70,000... then the Russians have been blowing it to shit for the past year.

They're in the hills surrounding the town shooting down. The town wouldn't be able to sustain that many troops if they actually wanted to be there.

Oh I'm aware that militarily being in a location does not actually literally mean being literally in a defined location, it just means they are in a strategic position to fight for control of said location. It's essentially a prolonged ambush.

The Ukrainians are claiming a 7 to 1 kill ratio, which explains (even if that is exaggerated) why they are more than happy to hold a strategically low value town like Bahkmut. The Russians on the other hand need to take it because they've made it a propaganda milestone, a line in the sand, and now they can't back down.

 

[SandisLL]

So what " peaceful scenario " for ukraine western fake friends might suggest: to agree voluntary to relocate to siberia, filtration camps and torture chambers cos this will be more comfortable for western politicians ( useless politicians btw ) ?
Or maybe to relocate to Germany, U.S and so on?
Western pals in Kremlin will get ukr without ukrainians and maybe western traitors breed will agree then accept all ukr population in their countries? I hope so cos how weak is western politics is obiviously easily to see ...

Even famous " supplies " are joke for mass media today.....
Pentagon and pres Biden are personally responsible not only for provocations and giving ukrainians false hopes.
Biden and Pentagon are personally responsible for U.S refusal to provide Ukr with 145-165 km range missiles for ATACM system.
Biden personally is responsible for invasion in Ukraine because he remowed U.S battleships from Black Sea before russian invasion in Ukraine.
Despite Black Sea is also coast for 3 full NATO member countries....
It was to show NATO weakness and sign that maybe they will act with Turkey, Bulgaria and Romania like they did with Kurds in Iraq.
Clear sign....

While I don't agree that U.S had " provoked " war.....
They clearly openly indirectly showed signs that they will allow to annex Ukraine. It is reality.

 

[Rational Poster]

Oh I'm aware that militarily being in a location does not actually literally mean being literally in a defined location, it just means they are in a strategic position to fight for control of said location. It's essentially a prolonged ambush.

The Ukrainians are claiming a 7 to 1 kill ratio, which explains (even if that is exaggerated) why they are more than happy to hold a strategically low value town like Bahkmut. The Russians on the other hand need to take it because they've made it a propaganda milestone, a line in the sand, and now they can't back down.

Russians need to take it for more than propaganda. While it's not strategically significant to Ukraine's survival, due to the degradation of Russia's equipment they can no longer maneuver more than a few km from their nearest supply point. They have to take each town, in a linear order, one at a time to make use of existing rail and road networks in Ukraine.

They've been forced to decentralize and hide their weapons in smaller and smaller weapon stores so they need more and more trucks and supply vehicles that they don't have. Bahkmut has a rail line that the Russians absolutely need to secure if they want to advance further in that direction. They are nearly entirely reliant on rail for logistics at this point which is pretty bad.

 

[AWilder]

lol

 

[AWilder]

Chudville is cheering Deathsantis for saying the Ukraine war is nothing more then a dispute over boarders. These are the same people who wore shirts that said I would vote for Putin over Biden. Not the brightest Chuds in the world.

they are not america's best or brightest

 

[SandisLL]

Oh I'm aware that militarily being in a location does not actually literally mean being literally in a defined location, it just means they are in a strategic position to fight for control of said location. It's essentially a prolonged ambush.

The Ukrainians are claiming a 7 to 1 kill ratio, which explains (even if that is exaggerated) why they are more than happy to hold a strategically low value town like Bahkmut. The Russians on the other hand need to take it because they've made it a propaganda milestone, a line in the sand, and now they can't back down.

Bakhmut city as location never had accumulated more than some 5000 soldiers in one time moment...
This reality.
Bakhmut also isn't any kind of fortress...nonsense.

Ofc during timefame from shelling started in may 2022 th....and assault wih ground forces since august 2022 till today Ukr had time to dig trenches and install mines and fortifications not only in Bakhmut....

Harkov and Sevastopol maybe might be called as fortress cos investments since 1945 th in shelters and undergorund stuff for case of war....
Not Bakhmut....

Maybe Ukr had planted a lot of mines and bobby traps in rows and cos this might manage high casualities ratio for invaders in Bakhmut....

According to not popular sources ( easily to google up ), forces attacking Bakhmut during months in row are generously supported with artillery support and rus special tasks pro units, a lot of ammunition, drones and drones - quadrocopters and cover from SAM systems, radioelectronic warfare systems etc...
The main problem is that they can't give safe artillery and mortar fire support if you are 30-200-250 m from opponent line.....

Russia today had lost 1 Su25.
Ukraine isn't Cabul or Checnya...

 

[A Lurker]

oh, i forgot you're reporting directly from ukraine...

carry on

No, but I can read a map

 

[SandisLL]

Russians need to take it for more than propaganda. While it's not strategically significant to Ukraine's survival, due to the degradation of Russia's equipment they can no longer maneuver more than a few km from their nearest supply point. They have to take each town, in a linear order, one at a time to make use of existing rail and road networks in Ukraine.

They've been forced to decentralized and hide their weapons in smaller and smaller weapon stores so they need more and more trucks and supply vehicles that they don't have. Bahkmut has a rail line that the Russians absolutely need to secure if they want to advance further in that direction. They are nearly entirely reliant on rail for logistics at this point which is pretty bad.

Railroad lines doesn't work. Needs repair.
Even now the same Severodonetsk is almost unusable.....Soledar too

.repairs needed for railroad etc.

 

[Rational Poster]

Railroad lines doesn't work. Needs repair.
Even now the same Severodonetsk is almost unusable.....Soledar too

.repairs needed for railroad etc.

Well sure they're going to have to take and repair it first, but as it stands they don't have the vehicles to support logistics for their entire front without relying on rail.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Really though I think Republicans view of the war is entirely partisan, its viewed as a democrat endeavour so must be demonised, not sure that would translate into much difference if policy if they came to power.

 

[SandisLL]

On paper should have and also huge mountains of ammo too.
While maybe support chain is weak?