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RUSSIA PAK FA T-50 stomps USA F-22 Raptor?

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  1. daryldeal Purple Belt

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    Is this true? Is the T50 the best air superiority figher vs the highly aclaimed raptor? Or is it just Russian propaganda?

    Kindly share your thoughts pls.
     
  2. Rod1 Titanium Belt

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    One exists and its operational, the other is not.
     
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  3. VivaRevolution Banned Banned

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    The real question is how will it do against the F-35 ...........oh wait.

    I member now.
     
  4. Tekk Brown Belt

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    Interesting article.
     
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  5. whougonnacall Silver Belt

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    F22 rapes.
    The russians cant even produce theirs in numbers large enough to matter even if it was the shit
     
  6. Whippy McGee Meme Master

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    One is in combat (F22), the other is a prototype (T50).

    All we have to do is keep oil / gas prices low and Russia can't afford shit.
     
  7. EvilWasLittle Banned Double Yellow Card

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    I can see maybe in a dogfight. But, the F-22 is meant for long range and is able to "talk" over military networks, allowing it to shoot targets out of the sky before the pilot can see them and before the enemy knows they're there. If you watch video on the F-22 compared to some other fighters, you'll see it's not the best at maneuverability, it isn't designed to be.
     
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  8. Egelo Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Lets be real it took 20 fucking years for it to fly a fucking combat mission.

    And they had less then 190 operational, So its not like the muricans can afford much of their shit either.

    The entire 5th gen of aircraft has been a giant joke and waste of resources.
     
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    I honestly think they're fucking around with the prices and putting money into some black project budget. No way these planes can cost this much and still not work correctly.
     
  10. Boagrius Blue Belt

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    Raptor is still king of the mountain for now. Both it and the F35 have significant advantages in terms of signature management (ie stealth), the flow on effects that has into the electronic wafare domain, data fusion and data sharing. Given that these are the things that actually give a jet the ability to get the first shot off successfully, that's a pretty big deal.

    PAK FA is set to get a new powerplant soonish which could help to even the odds somewhat but only time shall tell. As it stands there are only what? 9 of them?
     
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  11. Kowboy Karl Black Belt

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    They are junk.

    India is developing them and is not buying them in favor of upgrading current su30.

    China and Russia attempts at stealth 5th gen fighters are pathetic
     

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