Russell Crowe talks about Angelo Dundee (Ali's trainer) on JRE

[SSgt Dickweed]

-Russell trained with Angelo for the movie Cinderella Man where he played real life boxer James Braddock who fought during the depression era
-Angelo would introduce Russell as number 16 to his friends, he's had 15 world champions including Ali and Sugar Ray
-Russell claims he's had real matches and some parts of the movie were him and the other actors actually fighting each other
-got injured really bad fighting against an Olympian and the movie almost had to be shut down; Angelo asked him to include yoga in his training


I remember years ago when I was ardently watching Rogan's podcast, he called Cinderella Man hokey or something. But all throughout this podcast he glazed Russell and the movie.

 

[Dr Fong]

-Russell trained with Angelo for the movie Cinderella Man where he played real life boxer James Braddock who fought during the depression era
-Angelo would introduce Russell as number 16 to his friends, he's had 15 world champions including Ali and Sugar Ray
-Russell claims he's had real matches and some parts of the movie were him and the other actors actually fighting each other
-got injured really bad fighting against an Olympian and the movie almost had to be shut down; Angelo asked him to include yoga in his training


I remember years ago when I was ardently watching Rogan's podcast, he called Cinderella Man hokey or something. But all throughout this podcast he glazed Russell and the movie.

Imagine you're the boxer brought in to do a scene with Crowe, which has a scripted outcome of you losing and you go in there to try to knock him out...for no reason whatsoever.

And Ron Howard is just like 'cool, go ahead and try to give a concussion to the guy we are paying 20 million to act in this movie'

Which is another way of saying Crowe is bullshitting.

 

[StopDucking]

Imagine you're the boxer brought in to do a scene with Crowe, which has a scripted outcome of you losing and you go in there to try to knock him out...for no reason whatsoever.

And Ron Howard is just like 'cool, go ahead and try to give a concussion to the guy we are paying 20 million to act in this movie'

Which is another way of saying Crowe is bullshitting.

Did the Olympian injure him during a scene or during sparring? Nobody plays a boxer with no sparring training whatsoever.

 

[Dr Fong]

Did the Olympian injure him during a scene or during sparring? Nobody plays a boxer with no sparring training whatsoever.

In the time it took you post something that misses the point, you could have bothered to even read the cliff notes attached to the OP.

I'm not referring to sparring in preparation for scenes - I am referring to the claim that he had 'real fights' that are 'in the movie' with him and his co-star '100% beating the piss out of each other'.

And nothing actually shown in the film about the brief scene reflects that at all.

Either everyone involved in the situation was a complete retard, or far more likely, it is a lie.

 

[StopDucking]

In the time it took you post something that misses the point, you could have bothered to even read the cliff notes attached to the OP.

I'm not referring to sparring in preparation for scenes - I am referring to the claim that he had 'real fights' that are 'in the movie' with him and his co-star '100% beating the piss out of each other'.

And nothing actually shown in the film about the brief scene reflects that at all.

Either everyone involved in the situation was a complete retard, or far more likely, it is a lie.

The part about fighting scenes being real and the part about the actor getting beat up by an Olympian are mentioned in two different bullet points. Therefore, the question remains as to whether the Olympian beat him up during shooting or in other circumstances.

Seems like you’re the one missing the point.

 

[Dr Fong]

The part about fighting scenes being real and the part about the actor getting beat up by an Olympian are mentioned in two different bullet points. Therefore, the question remains as to whether the Olympian beat him up during shooting or in other circumstances.

Seems like you’re the one missing the point.

I certainly am missing why you are quoting my posts to say random shit about comments from a video you haven't watched.

He explained how he got injured. And it changes nothing about what I said.

 

[StopDucking]

I certainly am missing why you are quoting my posts to say random shit about comments from a video you haven't watched.

He explained how he got injured. And it changes nothing about what I said.

Here comes the usual “Wait, what? What’s going on? Nevermind, it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters.” when someone finds out he was wrong.

You can read the entire convo a second time. Nothing confusing has been said.

 

[Dr Fong]

Here comes the usual “Wait, what? What’s going on? Nevermind, it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters.” when someone finds out he was wrong.

You can read the entire convo a second time. Nothing confusing has been said.

Well, this is the dumbest exchange I have ever been involved in. Impressive for Shitdog.

I still have no idea what point it is that you think you are making or how it has proven me wrong about anything.

 

[treelo]

Russel Crowe is an absolute cunt, wouldnt believe anything he said

he is also fat as fuck, so that is another reason to not listen to what he has to say

 

[koquerelle]

In the time it took you post something that misses the point, you could have bothered to even read the cliff notes attached to the OP.

I'm not referring to sparring in preparation for scenes - I am referring to the claim that he had 'real fights' that are 'in the movie' with him and his co-star '100% beating the piss out of each other'.

And nothing actually shown in the film about the brief scene reflects that at all.

Either everyone involved in the situation was a complete retard, or far more likely, it is a lie.

It's always a lie.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Always liked him as an actor. To the rest of you that said he's a cunt or would never make it… eat Crowe.

 

[StopDucking]

Well, this is the dumbest exchange I have ever been involved in. Impressive for Shitdog.

I still have no idea what point it is that you think you are making or how it has proven me wrong about anything.

A summary of the entire convo:

- You: Either that Olympian injured him in a scene or he’s lying.
- Me: Maybe he injured him in sparring?
- You: The OP made it clear he didn’t.
- Me: The OP did not make it clear.
- You: This is sooo confusing.
- Me: No, it’s not.
- You: I am compleeetely lost.

 

[Dr Fong]

A summary of the entire convo:

- You: Either that Olympian injured him in a scene or he’s lying.
- Me: Maybe he injured him in sparring?
- You: The OP made it clear he didn’t.
- Me: The OP did not make it clear.
- You: This is sooo confusing.
- Me: No, it’s not.
- You: I am compleeetely lost.

What fascinating idiocy.

 

[mozfonky]

I don't believe it.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

I don't believe it.

Russ? He coulda been a contenda.

 

[mozfonky]

Russ? He coulda been a contenda.

Well, Stallone did stupid shit with boxers but he was delusional, I doubt Crowe or the filmmakers want injuries or delays.

In Raging Bull, Robert Deniro broke Joe Pesci's ribs in a sparring scene, but Robert took the training and the role seriously enough to where Jake Lamotta said he could be a pro. Maybe hype or maybe he meant it but Deniro usually went all the way with roles in those days. Most actors who play boxers aren't as serious as Stallone or Deniro.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

What fascinating idiocy.

This whole exchange got a laugh, and I agree, Crowe is chock full of shit!

 

[froggyluv]

Imagine you're the boxer brought in to do a scene with Crowe, which has a scripted outcome of you losing and you go in there to try to knock him out...for no reason whatsoever.

And Ron Howard is just like 'cool, go ahead and try to give a concussion to the guy we are paying 20 million to act in this movie'

Which is another way of saying Crowe is bullshitting.

Pretty sure this happened to Sly Stallone for Rocky 4. He did some real fighting with Ivan Drago (real kickboxer) and took a body shot so bad he had to be airlifted at low altitude (due to injury/oxygen) and was in intensive Care for half a week. Not saying Crowe is telling total truth -he kinda seems like a bullshitter

 

[WklySportsMemes]

I remember years ago when I was ardently watching Rogan's podcast, he called Cinderella Man hokey or something. But all throughout this podcast he glazed Russell and the movie.

Classic Rogan. How hes still hailed as informative or a source of truth baffles me.

Hes one of the biggest flip flopping trend hoppers I have ever seen. I was listening to his pod before it ever was a thing.

I've seen him condradict himself so much over the years I can no longer listen to him unless he has a really interesting guest with NEW info or NEW stories. Which is very rare.

All these pod cast spew bullshit because there is no way you can talk for 3-5 hours daily and not just talk completely out of your ass with made up silliness to fill the air. So much so you cant keep track of all your past opinions and declarations.
Yet people follow these "influencers" like they are always telling the truth.

 

[froggyluv]

Classic Rogan. How hes still hailed as informative or a source of truth baffles me.

Hes one of the biggest flip flopping trend hoppers I have ever seen. I was listening to his pod before it ever was a thing.

I've seen him condradict himself so much over the years I can no longer listen to him unless he has a really interesting guest with NEW info or NEW stories. Which is very rare.

All these pod cast spew bullshit because there is no way you can talk for 3-5 hours daily and not just talk completely out of your ass with made up silliness to fill the air. So much so you cant keep track of all your past opinions and declarations.
Yet people follow these "influencers" like they are always telling the truth.

Always liked Joe from back in the Day, from that sitcom he was on "Jujitsu joe' as well as early day MMA commentary because he actually understood grappling. But the guy has become a bloated testy mess with success. Reminds me of stoners in HS that thought every thing they uttered was so deep and profound. This video has more to do with his (awful) standup but pretty much shows how clueless the guy can be