Rumor: Joaquin Phoenix Offered $50 Million for Two Joker Sequels

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JOKER Sequel in the Works as Director Todd Phillips Eyes More DC Origin Movies [Updated]

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On Oct. 7, Joker director Todd Phillips headed into Warner Bros. Pictures Group chairman Toby Emmerich's office, buoyed by the film's $96.2 million opening-weekend haul. Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter he proposed an outsized idea — the rights to develop a portfolio of DC characters' origin stories.

Emmerich balked. After all, Warner Bros. is very protective of the DC canon. And all other DC deals have been for one film, and one film only. But Phillips did emerge from the meeting with the rights to at least one other DC story, sources say. And now that Joker has crossed the $1 billion mark, a sequel is on the way. As the movie keeps raking in money overseas, Phillips is in talks to reprise his role as director for a second Joker outing (he and Scott Silver, who penned the gritty Joker screenplay, will write the follow-up), THR has learned.

Warners has sequel options in place for Joker star Joaquin Phoenix, who has emerged as a strong contender in the Oscar best actor race. The studio and Phillips' reps at CAA declined to comment.

Joker marks the fourth DC title to cross $1 billion, following in the footsteps of 2018's Aquaman ($1.15 billion), 2012's The Dark Knight Rises($1.08 billion) and 2008's The Dark Knight ($1 billion). But its $60 million budget is far less than those previous films, so it is almost assured of generating profits of more than $500 million (Warners has a 50 percent stake, while Village Roadshow and Bron Studios each have 25 percent).

The unexpected bounty also is generating a huge payday for Phillips, 48. Sources say the director will earn close to $100 million when the dust has settled (he deferred his upfront salary in exchange for a bigger slice of the adjusted gross). In fact, the deal is similar to one he struck with Warners before the first Hangover movie, which went on to earn a surprise $467.5 million worldwide in 2009 off a $35 million budget (the trilogy took in $1.42 billion).

With Joker, Phillips already toyed with the idea of Bruce Wayne's origins (a letter written by the mother of Arthur Fleck, aka Joker, implies that the two are half-brothers. But Penny Fleck might not have been telling the truth, given the Fleck family propensity to imagine things that haven't taken place).

Still, he won't be exploring Batman's backstory. That task is already in the hands of writer-director Matt Reeves, whose The Batman, starring Robert Pattinson, is coming to theaters June 25, 2021. Ditto Wonder Woman, whose adolescence on the hidden island of Themyscira was laid out by screenwriter Allan Heinberg in Patty Jenkins' 2017 film that grossed $821 million. (The sequel starring Gal Gadot, Wonder Woman 1984, is due out June 5, 2020.)

As for a DC villain origin story that could be mined next, Phillips would be well suited for either Darkseid, a tyrannical ruler who is worshipped by some as the god of evil, or Metropolis' power-mad one-percenter, Lex Luthor.

[Update: According to multiple inside sources from Deadline said that while a sequel to Joker is an obvious likely eventuality that makes all the financial sense in the world, at this point there are no deals for a sequel, nor even any negotiations with director Todd Phillips or his co-writer Scott Silver to craft one.

“Yeah that was written about today, and I have to be honest, it came out of nowhere. It referred to a meeting that was never had,” Phillips admitted to The Playlist, confirming Deadline’s story. “I thought it was anticipatory at best. Obviously, sequels have been discussed when a movie that cost $60 million made $1 billion, but we have not had any serious conversations about it.”

Phillips went on to describe the practicalities of negotiations that must be put into place before sequel talk can move beyond speculation. “We don’t have a deal with Joaquin, they don’t have a deal with me and the writer. I don’t know where that came from, honest to God,” Phillips professed. “It’s a hard thing to refute when you don’t have a Twitter account, and you’re not really out there. You just go, ‘Ok, this will disappear in 24 hours, let’s move on.’”]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...d-phillips-eyes-more-dc-origin-movies-1256255
 
Joaquin Phoenix should definitely reprise his role, if there planning to do a sequel to Joker. Wouldn't make sense if they used someone else.
 
Typical Hollywood. Always looking for the next thing to milk to death.

This is why I laugh when people accuse Hollywood of racism. The only colour that matters in the City of Angels is the Green;)
 
Joaquin Phoenix should definitely reprise his role, if there planning to do a sequel to Joker. Wouldn't make sense if they used someone else.

What makes you think he wont? He has said himself he wants to as well. Havent seen the movie but it has gotten rave reviews so will be watching it as soon as I can download it.
 
I knew it.

They can't just be glad that a movie was done well with good creative minds. Their immediate thought is to just make MOARMOARMOAR....
 
That's a shame, it's a great stand alone movie

I like to think of it as one of those What If comic books

What If The Joker Existed In 1980's New York & There Were No Super Heroes

Loved the film, don't really want to see a sequel but I'll watch it regardless

I like the idea of completely new origin stories for DC villains, all grounded in our own world, sort of
 
That's a shame, it's a great stand alone movie

It is a bit different from your standard superhero film in that its more of an indepth character study as well, showing the characters switch towards his more villainous nature isn't something that I think would be easy to replicate. What would seem to make sense to me would be to introduce another DC character in that kind of situation and have Phoenix's Joker play into their story.

Whatever they do I think they do need to focus on quality casting, go after performers who don't naturally fit into Disney blockbusters like Phoenix or at least can't show their full potential in them.
 
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I think Joker was lightning in a bottle.

I'll believe it when JP is officially on board.

Otherwise, I think this is a case of, artistically, it should be left alone.

But money talks....
 
It is a bit different from your standard superhero film in that its more of an indepth character study as well, showing the characters switch towards his more villainous nature isn't something that I think would be easy to replicate. What would seem to make sense to me would be to introduce another DC character in that kind of situation and have Phoenix's Joker play into their story.

Whatever they do I think they do need to focus on quality casting, got after performers who don't naturally fit into Disney blockbusters like Phoenix or at least can't show their full potential in them.
What character would you suggest? Interesting idea & I'm intrigued, another villain or someone outside of Gotham's realm?
 
Joaquin Phoenix should definitely reprise his role, if there planning to do a sequel to Joker. Wouldn't make sense if they used someone else.
I hope he says no, no matter how much money they throw at him, and it kills any idea of a sequel.

I don't see it performing well at all.

The only sequel this Joker should be in, if Phoenix would do it, would be the Batman relaunch movies and him as the big bad in the second movie if the first movie does well for Paterson.
 
I think they'll throw so much money at JP like they did at Hugh Jackman for Wolverine although he really didn't want to. Hard to say no to a
100 million dollars.
 
Typical Hollywood. Always looking for the next thing to milk to death.
So true. I'm not into comic book flicks, but this movie captivated me during it's previews! Awesome movie, just let it be!
 
So is Phillips DC's Russo Brothers?
 
Can’t they have a great film and leave it at that? This doesn’t need a sequel.
 
This is stupid. They should just use this version of the joker in other DC movies now. A sequel to an origin story seems pointless.

If this Robert Pattinson Batman ends up being any good, they can set up an epic sequel to both movies where these two guys meet onscreen
 
I dug the movie. Not sure how a sequel works. This Joker wasn't some kind of Mastermind or a physical threat to anyone. Thought it was a great one and done story that doesn't need another trip to the well.
 
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