Rubber guard is terrible.

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  1. CBohl

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    Im an Ediie Bravo fan, but for MMA its completely useless.


    Ben Saunders is just getting fucked up.
     
  2. Blayt7hh

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    It’s just another tool in the box, and it’s not always right for the job
     
  3. Africa5876

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    Have you ever seen Tony Ferguson do it? Guy fucks people up from that position

    Just cause one guy isn't the greatest at it doesn't mean rubber guard is completely useless
     
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    Seemed like a reasonable control tactic and was really close to a triangle finish. Idk if I would call that "useless" but Matt Brown is just a savage.
     
  5. CBohl

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    Only Ferguson then.

    Every other fighters gets fucked up.
     
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    Getting back up/submissions from back. And dont post a stupid gif of a sub or I will post a million scrambles. You don't want to be on your back in a fist fight
     
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    He got to triangle position from there, it worked. He just couldn’t figure out how to close the space once the triangle was locked. He should’ve finished that submission, tbh. It was there and rubber guard got him there.
     
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    It worked pretty well in round 1 imo, Ben just needs to get better at moving up to a triangle.
     
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    Penn used it tremendously back in the day, defensively and offensively.
     
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    Diego Sanchez fucked up clay guida from rubber guard

    It depends on the fighter
    What he said

    I think what you said is true in a sense cause a lot of fighters don't know how to properly implement it but if you know how to implement rubber guard into your game, you can do some serious damage
     
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    That's not a rubber guard. Don't listen to DC and Joe.
     
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    I'm not saying rubber guard is always the smartest thing to do, generally you wanna get up, but if you are controlling him off of your back then you don't need to get up, not at least until you lose your position
     
  13. ostlerrage

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    its more effective when you're not pressed up against the fence. see ben saunders vs brown.
     
  14. Cylence

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    Also I remember Aoki having a seriously fucking slick rubber guard. Although he used it primarily to set up submissions and not strikes, because, well, it's Aoki.
     
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    Yes it is.
     
  16. Aaaay1hotsauce

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    Penn didn’t use rubber guard. What are you talking about?
     
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    It's effective... it's just not going to win you the fight by itself.
     
  18. Cylence

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    Used it against GSP in the first fight.
     
  19. ParadoxBJJ

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    don't remember ever seeing anything meaningful happen from the rubber guard.

    the greatest things Eddie Bravo has done had nothing to do with the rubber guard.

    he got that Gracie dude with a standard triangle choke and then various half-guard techniques in the rematch.
     
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    Nahh man he got his foot stuck and had a cramp trying to fight him to the death.
     
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    No, that’s a high guard. That’s not rubber guard.
     

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