RSA's Mugabe-in-waiting: "Make more black babies"

[lifelessheap]

Honestly, I think it is starting to get to me.
If the next elections go the wrong way, it's probably time for an exit strategy.

"kill the farmer, kill the Boer

kill the farmer, kill the Boer"

Yeah, I'd probably want to leave too.

 

[Skip Reming]

"oh noz you don't" - planned parenthood

 

[Rod1]

I have a couple things in place. Savings if the currency doesn't descend to fast. A paypal account unconnected to an SA bank if it does. A friend in Australlia, another in England, and one in New Zealand. Also a British passport from my mother's side, since the local passport isn't worth what it used to be.

Man, i cant believe how it must feel to be disenfranchised from your own homeland.

I would certainly be majorly depressed.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

I don't see the issue. That is his opinion and more black babies won't hurt anyone who doesn't have an agenda against their being more black babies in South Africa.

It is ludicrous to argue that somehow black people should forgo their right to have kids or that somehow increasing the population at a time when world wide birth rates in most 'industrialized' countries are declining is somehow bad. In fact, poverty aside the future larger population could be of use.

Man, i cant believe how it must feel to be disenfranchised from your own homeland.

I would certainly be majorly depressed.

Hmmmm. Trying being a White Latino living in Latin America. It isn't so bad if you are in the cone of South America given a higher degree of connection. But in Central America or some other parts it has to be rough id imagine. Conection to Spain or Portugal? Ha!

Of course it does not seem as bad as the Anglos abandoning their own in South Africa.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

I honestly don't see what is stopping South Africa from turning into a black run 'National Socialist' paradise. There seems to be more Julius Malema's coming out from everywhere. They advocate socialism for the populations who fit their definition of 'worthy for citizenship', and want to deprive the others. While then advocating the advancement of their own group over others.

You can't honestly believe that his racist and supremacist comments are somehow only limited to himself especially when you consider his privilege and position.

The first modern black Fascist state?

 

[RespectableDenizen]

I don't see the issue. That is his opinion and more black babies won't hurt anyone who doesn't have an agenda against their being more black babies in South Africa.

It is ludicrous to argue that somehow black people should forgo their right to have kids or that somehow increasing the population at a time when world wide birth rates in most 'industrialized' countries are declining is somehow bad. In fact, poverty aside the future larger population could be of use.



Hmmmm. Trying being a White Latino living in Latin America. It isn't so bad if you are in the cone of South America given a higher degree of connection. But in Central America or some other parts it has to be rough id imagine. Conection to Spain or Portugal? Ha!

Of course it does not seem as bad as the Anglos abandoning their own in South Africa.

You're my favorite WR troll. There are many like you, but you're the best.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

You're my favorite WR troll. There are many like you, but you're the best.

How is it a troll post?

His statement is valid and not something that should 'offend' people. So what if he wants more black babies? Why are you against that idea?

 

[carlos cadona]

Malema and the EFF are the biggest scam artists in South Africa, they pay lip service to the struggles of poor youth with little hope for the future but neglect to mention that the only reason the EFF exists is to help Malema regain political power after he proved to be far to corrupt and extreme for any other political party to want him around.

 

[IDL]

Maybe he wants a child army

 

[RespectableDenizen]

How is it a troll post?

His statement is valid and not something that should 'offend' people. So what if he wants more black babies? Why are you against that idea?

I'm against it because I am racist.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

Man, i cant believe how it must feel to be disenfranchised from your own homeland.

I would certainly be majorly depressed.

To be honest, it's not as bad as I sometimes make it sound.
Malema's a concern, but the EFF wasn't close to winning any significant share of power in the last elections ( though it was their first one as an option) and while the ANC likes to talk about 'the struggle' and has occasionally descended into recitations of violent, racist songs in an effort to get the poor masses behind them, they know they wouldn't have any money to steal if they actually got rid rid of white people.
Most of the Apartheid-era institutions are still in place (strong constitutional court, banking infrastructure and stock market) private security is better trained and armed than the police forces, and the country is one of the cheapest to live in in the world. We don't have religious extremism because ancestor worship and Christianity seem to get along side-by-side just fine, and while the crime is crazy, the country's crime stats are not at all representative of my reality as a middle- to upper-class South African.

We're politically aligning ourselves ever closer to Russia, China and, more recently, Saudi Arabia, so those are things to continue keeping a wary eye on, and our relationships with other African countries are not as strong as I think they should be.

It's just hard to know how many of the desperately poor and uneducated Malema's rhetoric is swaying, and the best benchmark I have of that are election results. He hasn't been an independent force long enough for history to tell me much on that front, so he makes me a little nervous because of that.
He's also been on a kick lately, talking to Al Jazeera about mobilising the people against the government, and making Gauteng province 'ungovernable' if the upcoming municipal elections don't go his way:
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/we-will-run-out-of-patience-very-soon-malema-20160421
He's mostly talk, but dismissing him out of hand would probably be unwise, especially since he does seem to have a fairly strong following.

The biggest danger a guy like him represents to the country at the moment, i feel, is in the psychological effect he has on the middle-class population.
Both black and white, South Africans with money are more and more often using it to get out because the president doesn't know what to do with an economy, and guys like Malema stop just short of advocating civil war. The more the middle- and upper-class is scared away, the more likely it is that the country descends into the worst-case scenario they think they're running away from.
The South African middle class panics easily, whites most of all, I think because we're a minority and that status seems to make people even more nervous in the face of uncertainty.

I don't see the issue. That is his opinion and more black babies won't hurt anyone who doesn't have an agenda against their being more black babies in South Africa.

It is ludicrous to argue that somehow black people should forgo their right to have kids or that somehow increasing the population at a time when world wide birth rates in most 'industrialized' countries are declining is somehow bad. In fact, poverty aside the future larger population could be of use.



Hmmmm. Trying being a White Latino living in Latin America. It isn't so bad if you are in the cone of South America given a higher degree of connection. But in Central America or some other parts it has to be rough id imagine. Conection to Spain or Portugal? Ha!

Of course it does not seem as bad as the Anglos abandoning their own in South Africa.

Lol.
There are trolls who take their art seriously, and craft subtle, even well-reasoned posts to see what reaction they get... and then there're trolls like this ^

 

[Rod1]

To be honest, it's not as bad as I sometimes make it sound.
Malema's a concern, but the EFF wasn't close to winning any significant share of power in the last elections ( though it was their first one as an option) and while the ANC likes to talk about 'the struggle' and has occasionally descended into recitations of violent, racist songs in an effort to get the poor masses behind them, they know they wouldn't have any money to steal if they actually got rid rid of white people.
Most of the Apartheid-era institutions are still in place (strong constitutional court, banking infrastructure and stock market) private security is better trained and armed than the police forces, and the country is one of the cheapest to live in in the world. We don't have religious extremism because ancestor worship and Christianity seem to get along side-by-side just fine, and while the crime is crazy, the country's crime stats are not at all representative of my reality as a middle- to upper-class South African.

We're politically aligning ourselves ever closer to Russia, China and, more recently, Saudi Arabia, so those are things to continue keeping a wary eye on, and our relationships with other African countries are not as strong as I think they should be.

It's just hard to know how many of the desperately poor and uneducated Malema's rhetoric is swaying, and the best benchmark I have of that are election results. He hasn't been an independent force long enough for history to tell me much on that front, so he makes me a little nervous because of that.
He's also been on a kick lately, talking to Al Jazeera about mobilising the people against the government, and making Gauteng province 'ungovernable' if the upcoming municipal elections don't go his way:
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/we-will-run-out-of-patience-very-soon-malema-20160421
He's mostly talk, but dismissing him out of hand would probably be unwise, especially since he does seem to have a fairly strong following.

The biggest danger a guy like him represents to the country at the moment, i feel, is in the psychological effect he has on the middle-class population.
Both black and white, South Africans with money are more and more often using it to get out because the president doesn't know what to do with an economy, and guys like Malema stop just short of advocating civil war. The more the middle- and upper-class is scared away, the more likely it is that the country descends into the worst-case scenario they think they're running away from.
The South African middle class panics easily, whites most of all, I think because we're a minority and that status seems to make people even more nervous in the face of uncertainty.

Well glad to know, people who lose their homelands kind of break my heart. Maybe because i like where i live, despite all the fucked up things.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

Well glad to know, people who lose their homelands kind of break my heart. Maybe because i like where i live, despite all the fucked up things.

I feel the same about mine.

 

[uppercutbus]

I can't imagine anything worse in life than not being able to put food on the table for my kids. Being dirt poor and having more kids is probably the dumbest thing I have ever heard

Conversely, some European countries import the poors so they can leech off the system for a bit but provide poor dis-enfranchised children who are sopposed to do the shit jobs white people don't and pay for everyones pensions.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Imagine the reverse in a country where whites outnumbered blacks 10-1. Women would condemn the white man. Will anybody say anything about this? No. The world agenda is weird right now.

 

[Rod1]

I don't see the issue. That is his opinion and more black babies won't hurt anyone who doesn't have an agenda against their being more black babies in South Africa.

It is ludicrous to argue that somehow black people should forgo their right to have kids or that somehow increasing the population at a time when world wide birth rates in most 'industrialized' countries are declining is somehow bad. In fact, poverty aside the future larger population could be of use.

Hmmmm. Trying being a White Latino living in Latin America. It isn't so bad if you are in the cone of South America given a higher degree of connection. But in Central America or some other parts it has to be rough id imagine. Conection to Spain or Portugal? Ha!

Of course it does not seem as bad as the Anglos abandoning their own in South Africa.

Being a white latino anywhere is awesome what the hell are you talking about? you get to be part of the elite, or at least you are considered beautiful.

 

[Paladin]

South Africa's resident communist lunatic and leader of the Economic Freedom Front, Comrade Julius Malema, thinks it's a good idea for his already poverty-stricken brethren to pump out more mouths to feed, as long as they vote for him (what a shocker):



http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2016/04/15/Malema-Make-more-black-babies

Malema has been known to criticise the ANC for not leaning Left enough, despite having turned South Africa into one of the biggest welfare states in the world.
Frightening stuff.

For reference, black South Africans outnumber whites at the moment by about 10-1. Never really been in danger of 'disappearing as a black nation.'

Is this RSA's Mugabe?

Mugabe = Zimbabwe
Zuma , Malema = RSA