Roy builds the ‘perfect’ fighter

[SSgt Dickweed]

Why JCC with accuracy? For liver shots?

 

[SSgt Dickweed]

Chin: Clinton Woods
Hand Speed: Clinton Woods
Reflexes: Clinton Woods
Power: Clinton Woods
Boxing IQ: Clinton Woods
Defense: Clinton Woods
Athleticism: Clinton Woods

The perfect fighter.

RJJ, worst lipsyncer of all time.

 

[defjaam]

There is someone who's pretty close to Roy's perfect fighter:

 

[mozfonky]

There is someone who's pretty close to Roy's perfect fighter:

if you put one arm curls he is a winner.

 

[mozfonky]

James Toney could be a good one for cut resistance. I only remember him getting cut once and that was from a headbut to the eyebrow.

is that right? Ali had a great ability for taking facial punishment, round features, tough skin, he was only cut once as a pro, the foster fight, he may have been cut in the holmes fight but i'm not sure. either way, all those years with all that competition and coming out with one cut and one broken jaw is amazing in this sport. it's not hard getting through a rough sparring session without something getting broken for a lot of guys. Imagine if roy had an ali like chin and ability to adapt to age, he'd have been a terror for another ten years.

 

[mozfonky]

Go with the power of julian jackson proportionate to a heavyweight with Floyd's accuracy and James Toney's defense.

so many legendary punchers, any one of them would be about the same degree of lethality, Cuevas, Jackson, Mcclellan, john mugabi. Oddly enough, the heavyweight punchers almost always have to throw more punches to get a guy out of there, including foreman and frazier.

 

[Stormtrooper85]

so many legendary punchers, any one of them would be about the same degree of lethality, Cuevas, Jackson, Mcclellan, john mugabi. Oddly enough, the heavyweight punchers almost always have to throw more punches to get a guy out of there, including foreman and frazier.

George a bit wild with them swings but an accurate assessment

 

[JayE]

James Toney could be a good one for cut resistance. I only remember him getting cut once and that was from a headbut to the eyebrow.

To my knowledge, Hopkins was never cut in his career.

 

[defjaam]

Also I think Jones own reflexes are better than ali

Not sure about that. Ali evaded punches like a boss. Often he'd just slightly lean back and turn his head,... so not even actual ducking & slipping.

 

[mozfonky]

To my knowledge, Hopkins was never cut in his career.

someone here said they met him and said his face was all banged up, whether that was cuts or broken bones I don't know but having a facial structure (round features, smaller nose, thick skin) that can take abuse is one of those things that you either have or you don't just by chance. Tommy Hearns had his nose broken his very first sparring session, Larry Holmes used to get black eyes from Ali, it's a tough sport to avoid damage in.

 

[mozfonky]

Not sure about that. Ali evaded punches like a boss. Often he'd just slightly lean back and turn his head,... so not even actual ducking & slipping.

roy also had deadly power to make guys slow down, Ali never had that and so some of his opponents had not a bit of fear of him (norton,Chuvalo).

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

Chin: Clinton Woods
Hand Speed: Clinton Woods
Reflexes: Clinton Woods
Power: Clinton Woods
Boxing IQ: Clinton Woods
Defense: Clinton Woods
Athleticism: Clinton Woods

The perfect fighter.

Put all that in the perfect body of Kubrat Pulev and you have a boxing god we are not worthy to perceive.

 

[ZOD66]

Cardio: Usyk Defense: Floyd Jr. , Attack: Tyson, Movement: Ali, Fighting IQ: Fury

 

[mozfonky]

Here's a long list of assets, physical and mental, that help a fighter, feel free to add:
Physical
1. Power
2. Speed-hands, feet, reflexes for defense
3. Strength
4. Stamina
5. Coordination-some fast fighters like tommy hearns don't have the coordination to be great combination punchers for ex.
6. Chin
7. Tissue and bone resilience to punishment.
8. Defense
9. Reach/Height/size
10. Skills: a. Boxing b. Infighting c. counterpunching d. ring generalship.
11. Balance-important when you're constantly moving, getting hit in all kinds of positions, many knockdowns are strictly balance issues.
Mental
1. Ring strategy
2. Corner men (outside observation, handling of officials, cutmen etc...,)
3. Determination
4. Discipline
5. Psychology employed on the opponent and one self.
6. Personal background almost always has prepped a fighter in some way for the rigors and brutality of this sport. Impoverished, violent and abusive backgrounds have traditionally been common for boxers.
7. Self-Belief: some fighters have it for awhile and lose it somewhere along the line, others never lose it, even when they are shot.
8. Experience: Amateur and pro, the more situations that a fighter has faced, the more familiar he will be when it comes up again. The peak of a fighter is generally a medium between their physical abilities and their experience, 27 is the age traditionally given as a fighters prime, depending on the fighter and the weight that number can vary. Great managers match their prospect with different styles on the way up and tests that are enough to help a young fighter improve but not enough to break him. Dundee was a master manager.

 

[asdffdsa]

is that right? Ali had a great ability for taking facial punishment, round features, tough skin, he was only cut once as a pro, the foster fight, he may have been cut in the holmes fight but i'm not sure. either way, all those years with all that competition and coming out with one cut and one broken jaw is amazing in this sport. it's not hard getting through a rough sparring session without something getting broken for a lot of guys. Imagine if roy had an ali like chin and ability to adapt to age, he'd have been a terror for another ten years.

Yeah Ali is way up there to. The ability to take shots and not get cut or even swell up is something I marvel at when I watch some of the top fighters. If I could even make it for a few minutes with these guys, my face would look like hamburger meat.

Also Roy with an iron chin would have been something. Imagine if he felt free to take more risk.

 

[burningspear]

Not bad, mine would be:
Speed, Hector Camacho
Power Edwin Rosario
Defense Pernell Whitaker
Quickness Roy Jones Jr.
Size, Muhammad Ali
But these are really only a few aspects and dont even mention intangibles.

That's quality.

 

[Ancient Warrior]

Roy made a pretty damn good list for just firing off the top of his head.

I’m sure it’d be a lot better if he had time to think about it.

 

[BoxingMMA]

Good stuff from Roy.

 

[Oxycodone]

Kinda hard to have the speed of a particularly speedy fighter and power of a big puncher. They just throw punches so differently. The technique and aesthetics are completely off from each other. Calzaghe would never throw a left hook like Frazier.

Is the idea that it would look like Calzaghe’s punches but have the impact of Frazier’s?

 

[Oxycodone]

No matter what, I think having the ring IQ of Hopkins or Ward is a must. Both guys were perfectly aware of where to be and when, as well as how to bend the rules to the ideal amount. Usyk is showing some of that same IQ.