Ronda vs Floyd question

Discussion in 'The Lightweights' started by Enders, Aug 13, 2015.

  1. Enders

    Enders Green Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2014
    Messages:
    1,305
    Likes Received:
    859
    I'm not trying to start a debate here, I just know that this place would be the best place to find this answer. Many people claim that Floyd could ko Ronda before she could clinch.

    My question is this. Is punching a viable defense to a clinch or takedown? I know fighters use takedown defense, and then punch. I've seen fighters use knees to stop a takedown. But can anybody provide an example of someone using a punch to stop a takedown or clinch, prior to establishing takedown defense?
     
  2. Buck Murdock

    Buck Murdock Green Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2011
    Messages:
    1,270
    Likes Received:
    411
  3. Enders

    Enders Green Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2014
    Messages:
    1,305
    Likes Received:
    859
    MMA has debunked and confirmed a lot of martial arts theory. We now have a whole lot of evidence on what works and what doesnt work. I just wanna know if the idea that someone can throw punches to stop a takedown is a legit strategy.
     
  4. IcyBlue

    IcyBlue Holla

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2003
    Messages:
    855
    Likes Received:
    9
    Sprawl and push and jab
     
  5. Enders

    Enders Green Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2014
    Messages:
    1,305
    Likes Received:
    859
    I understand that sprawling works. I was looking for an example of punching to stop a takedown.
     
  6. craxie

    craxie Yellow Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    209
    Likes Received:
    7
    watch the bjjscout youtube videos on Ronda, they cover how opponents have used the jab to stop her from rushing and clinching them
     
  7. Frozenkilt

    Frozenkilt Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2006
    Messages:
    1,596
    Likes Received:
    193
    Floyd via having testicles. :rolleyes:

    People need to let this shit go.
     
  8. SKITZADACTYL

    SKITZADACTYL Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2013
    Messages:
    20,439
    Likes Received:
    28,649
    because you can't take someone down when you're knocked out.
     
  9. Bones245n4847

    Bones245n4847 Red Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2013
    Messages:
    8,438
    Likes Received:
    2,076
    Location:
    Jon Jones nutsack
    Punching is viable as a preemptive strike to the clinch if you are a precision sniper like Mayweather who just got 300 million in his last fight. This isn't some random guy who goes to the boxing gym every weekend. This is the top 1% all time level male boxer.
     
  10. Enders

    Enders Green Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2014
    Messages:
    1,305
    Likes Received:
    859
    Understand this. I'm looking for an example of this ever occurring.
     
  11. SKITZADACTYL

    SKITZADACTYL Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2013
    Messages:
    20,439
    Likes Received:
    28,649
    anyone who wanted the fight on the ground but got knocked out.
     
  12. Enders

    Enders Green Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2014
    Messages:
    1,305
    Likes Received:
    859
    That's the theory. I'm asking for this ever happening. While there has never been a boxer as good as Mayweather in mma, there is certainly enough punches thrown for this to have happened if it's viable. I'm not trying to debate whether it's a good theory, i'm searching for an example.
     
  13. craxie

    craxie Yellow Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    209
    Likes Received:
    7
    not knockouts, but

     
  14. Enders

    Enders Green Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2014
    Messages:
    1,305
    Likes Received:
    859
    Is usually always done by the fighter establishing takedown defense. I'm searching for an example of it being down with just punches.
     
  15. Candy Routure

    Candy Routure Brown Belt

    Joined:
    May 4, 2015
    Messages:
    3,620
    Likes Received:
    3,735
    Location:
    My House, I built it.
    [​IMG]
     
  16. Enders

    Enders Green Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2014
    Messages:
    1,305
    Likes Received:
    859
    That is evidence, but Ronda took every single one of those girls down.
     
  17. SKITZADACTYL

    SKITZADACTYL Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2013
    Messages:
    20,439
    Likes Received:
    28,649
    i thought about making a noons/stout or hughes/newton joke in my first post lmao.
     
  18. Candy Routure

    Candy Routure Brown Belt

    Joined:
    May 4, 2015
    Messages:
    3,620
    Likes Received:
    3,735
    Location:
    My House, I built it.
    Lol..
     
  19. Scooter Brown

    Scooter Brown Cock Goblin

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2003
    Messages:
    13,934
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    Suncheon, South Korea
    No. It isn't. I've asked this many times through the years and nobody has been able to provide a true example of it. It has never happened.
     
  20. craxie

    craxie Yellow Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    209
    Likes Received:
    7
    Eventually, but it stopped her first attempts.

    Are you asking if it can stop an attempt? Clearly it can and has.

    Are you asking if it can stop 100% of attempts? No method works 100% of the time.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.