Ronda Rousey Is One Reason Why The "Out Of His Prime"

[Franc Mittelo]

argument (especially when a dominant fighter starts to lose) is very weak. Ronda Rousey is still in her prime and athletically still a Top 10 (I would even say Top 5) female BW fighter. She can still beat a lot Top 10 BWs.

However, in the heights of her powers, she was smashed by a rookie, and her will to fight was beaten out of her. To say "Holly Holm and Amanda Nunes only beat Ronda Rousey, because she was out of her prime" is simply ridiculous, and most of us reasonable people will agree.

I will acknowledge, it could be true that your favorite Russian HW was "out of his prime" when he started getting smashed, but it could also be true that he was the first "Ronda Rousey," and ran into the wrong match-ups.

Just because a fighter starts to lose, it doesn't mean he or she is "out of his or her prime." Sometimes, (1) the sport evolves rapidly and a dominant champion becomes ordinary and/or (2) he or she eventually runs into better competition, and collects a few Ls.

If the people, who follow and are knowledgeable about the sport, are not writing articles questioning a fighter's experience and talent, in the lead up to a fight, I don't know on what basis a fighter's fans can claim "it is because he is out of his prime" if a fighter losses.

 

[Tamriel Terror]

1. I haven't heard anyone say Honda lost because she was "out of her prime".
2. Ronda lost because all she had was judo and aggressiveness +a massive ego and finally fought opponents that had a gameplan and were very skilled.
2. "out of their prime" arguments definitely hold merit in many scenarios because athletes get old.
3. "the sport has evolved" is bs. Half of the top hws are from the pride era and are around 40 years old.

 

[Your Account]

She is not out of her prime , it seems she just figured out how over-hyped she was

 

[eiyuu]

Show us some quotes from someone here or elsewhere who said Rousey was "out of her prime"

 

[BigMuffler]

However, in the heights of her powers, she was smashed by a rookie

Who is a rookie, Holy Home who started at the same time as Ronda or Mandy who started years earlier?

 

[CubicleGangster]

"smashed by a rookie"

 

[OneManGang]

"out of his prime" means that the athlete is unable to perform at the same levels as his peak. Ronda is out her prime as well. She is broken mentally and beyond repair.

 

[IGotAHugePeckah]

Ronda Rousey was like bitcoin - she was disgustingly overvalued and eventually the bubble burst.

 

[filthynumber1]

nobody says that

nobody

 

[Bubblun]

Ronda's situation was indeed a clear example of the competition getting better and above her level, same thing that happened to many others dominant champions that suddenly started to lose.

 

[Ryoto Machida]

I bet you really thought you had a winner when you were making this thread, huh?

 

[DocK]

Read stupid thread without seeing who made it, then checked who made it... zero surprise.

 

[JustBleed69]

argument (especially when a dominant fighter starts to lose) is very weak. Ronda Rousey is still in her prime and athletically still a Top 10 (I would even say Top 5) female BW fighter. She can still beat a lot Top 10 BWs.

However, in the heights of her powers, she was smashed by a rookie, and her will to fight was beaten out of her. To say "Holly Holm and Amanda Nunes only beat Ronda Rousey, because she was out of her prime" is simply ridiculous, and most of us reasonable people will agree.

I will acknowledge, it could be true that your favorite Russian HW was "out of his prime" when he started getting smashed, but it could also be true that he was the first "Ronda Rousey," and ran into the wrong match-ups.

Just because a fighter starts to lose, it doesn't mean he or she is "out of his or her prime." Sometimes, (1) the sport evolves rapidly and a dominant champion becomes ordinary and/or (2) he or she eventually runs into better competition, and collects a few Ls.

If the people, who follow and are knowledgeable about the sport, are not writing articles questioning a fighter's experience and talent, in the lead up to a fight, I don't know on what basis a fighter's fans can claim "it is because he is out of his prime" if a fighter losses.

So 40 something y/o Vitor is the same Vitor from the mid 2000s?

Lol okay.

 

[UFCLEGEND88]

of course she wasn't out of her prime

she was never good, silly

 

[loisestrad]

Ronda's situation was indeed a clear example of the competition getting better and above her level, same thing that happened to many others dominant champions that suddenly started to lose.

Not necessarily entirely true. She lost vs Holly, who then proceeded to lose vs Miesha. And lost vs. Nunes who had lost vs fighters that Ronda beat with ease. So it's not that she lost vs some new breed of fighters, that were clearly above her level.

 

[Gilday]

Stopped reading when you said Holly Holm, the multiple time boxing and kickboxing champion with an undefeated MMA record, was a rookie.

 

[Bubblun]

Not necessarily entirely true. She lost vs Holly, who then proceeded to lose vs Miesha. And lost vs. Nunes who had lost vs fighters that Ronda beat with ease. So it's not that she lost vs some new breed of fighters, that were clearly above her level.

The Holm loss against Miesha was kinda flukish, she did the only thing she could have done to win and was losing that fight clearly until that point.
Amanda Nunes got A LOT better, she also changed camp before her run to the title, completely different beast.

Both Holm and Nunes are the best fighters Ronda has ever faced.
Another fighter that could have beaten Ronda but wasn't around when Ronda was champ is Shevchenko.

 

[Super Grover]

The "out of his prime" argument is stupid because most people think 30 yrs old is an athletes prime.

(Its not)

 

[Bubblun]

The "out of his prime" argument is stupid because most people think 30 yrs old is an athletes prime.

(Its not)

So, is it after or before 30?

 

[loisestrad]

The Holm loss against Miesha was kinda flukish, she did the only thing she could have done to win and was losing that fight clearly until that point.
Amanda Nunes got A LOT better, she also changed camp before her run to the title.

Both Holm and Nunes are the best fighters Ronda has ever faced.

Yeah, true. But I still kinda feel like Ronda actually had the tools to beat Holm and Nunes, had she implemented another gameplan, and/or not been as stubborn as she was regarding switching camps.