I've fallen in love with the move, ever since seeing it on lockflow.com and then in the Degeneration X PPV, specifically in Michaels-Shamrock. I've pulled off the move a few times against relative newcomers or people either smaller than me or a bit weaker but when the competition stiffens, it has become a bit tougher to apply...I've ALMOST gotten it on a few experienced guys, one of whom was way bigger than me...but so far, it hasn't QUITE happened. Okay, last night, I was rolling with my boy, and I went for the rolling kneebar from the clinch...and ended up not only getting stacked, but smashing my head into his knee. Against him, what I did was overhook, clinch and then maintain the overhook as I went for a forward roll towards his knee. At the time, he was standing up straight. My own self-corrections are as follows: 1. maintain the overhook when rolling for the kneebar mainly against those you are confident in your ability to overpower 2. if you maintain the overhook through the roll ala Ken Shamrock-Shawn Michaels, bend them over first, then tuck your chin and roll for the leg with your other hand. I think that, although it might have less control, against significantly larger opponents--even if they aren't stronger--its best to roll from clinch WITHOUT maintaining the overhook. Thus far, I've done better by have a free-roll for the legs from the clinch where I release the overhook. My final thought: before you roll, you gotta step between the opponent's legs with your near leg...and I think it would be wise to kick as powerfully as you can with that leg as you roll. Anyway, any suggestions on making good on a rolling kneebar from clinch?