Rogan on Infowars

[loyalyolayal]

Will youtube demonetize Rogan? WIll this vid forever brand him as alt-right while claiming to be socialist?

Idk. I'm less then halfway through but this is a great show.
- the left supporting muslims while open season on christians
- trannies in sport

Andrew Santino is also in the studio.

 

[Limit Smasher]

What a fucking nazi....

 

[LLD2008]

Eddie Bravo needs to come on there also

 

[Rockapotomuss]

 

[WhiteMousse]

What a fucking nazi....

Wait for real? Why??

 

[DC23]

Fair play to Joe.

Being much less of a pussy lately.

 

[ultramanhyata]

Will youtube demonetize Rogan? WIll this vid forever brand him as alt-right while claiming to be socialist?

Idk. I'm less then halfway through but this is a great show.
- the left supporting muslims while open season on christians
- trannies in sport

Andrew Santino is also in the studio.

This YouTube video is a good example of how ultimately meaningless it is to "deplatform" a YouTube channel.

 

[loyalyolayal]

This YouTube video is a good example of how ultimately meaningless it is to "deplatform" a YouTube channel.

Kinda hurts the content creators. Unless that channel is an infowars/jones dummy account.

 

[ultramanhyata]

Unless that channel is an infowars/jones dummy account.

 

[nac386]

- the left supporting muslims while open season on christians

This seems to be more of a talking point than a reality. I've never heard anybody support Islamic ideology while condemning Christian ideology. People have concocted this false narrative based on the fact that some people who are generally against religion mixing with politics happen to also support freedom of religion. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

I also noticed the other day that Joe Rogan started talking about how the left is in a tough position because one of their politicians is a Muslim and is saying anti-Semitic things. Then Bryan Callen asked if she was being more anti-Israel than anti-Semitic. At which point Joe Rogan basically acknowledged he had no idea what she had said, which means he was just regurgitating things he heard on Twitter or something.

In other words, talking out of his ass. He really shouldn't repeat talking points he hears without doing his research first.

Now, if he actually knew what she said and considered it anti-Semitic, that would be fine. But being that he had no idea what he was talking about, it would make sense to not spread that talking point.

 

[loyalyolayal]

This seems to be more of a talking point than a reality. I've never heard anybody support Islamic ideology while condemning Christian ideology. People have concocted this false narrative based on the fact that some people who are generally against religion mixing with politics happen to also support freedom of religion. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

I also noticed the other day that Joe Rogan started talking about how the left is in a tough position because one of their politicians is a Muslim and is saying anti-Semitic things. Then Bryan Callen asked if she was being more anti-Israel than anti-Semitic. At which point Joe Rogan basically acknowledged he had no idea what she had said, which means he was just regurgitating things he heard on Twitter or something.

In other words, talking out of his ass. He really shouldn't repeat talking points he hears without doing his research first.

Now, if he actually knew what she said and considered it anti-Semitic, that would be fine. But being that he had no idea what he was talking about, it would make sense to not spread that talking point.

I think this has to be the left trying to be the champion for those they deemed victimized.

 

[nac386]

I think this has to be the left trying to be the champion for those they deemed victimized.

As in, standing up for people who are mistreated? Well yeah, that is something all Americans should do.

There seems to be this misconception that the left hates Christianity, even though much of the left is made up of various Christians. For example, the Catholic church is by far the largest group of Christians in the country (70,000,000 people), and there are more Catholics on the left than on the right (44% vs 37%).

The left (however the hell we're defining that) does not hate Christianity. Much of the left is Christian.

 

[Limit Smasher]

Wait for real? Why??

Alex Jones and anyone associated with Infowars are nazis.

 

[IGotAHugePeckah]

Rogan is trying to help his old friend out and "rehab" Jones' image it seems.

 

[lfd0311]

This seems to be more of a talking point than a reality. I've never heard anybody support Islamic ideology while condemning Christian ideology.

The left has a very bad habit of refusing to even achknowledge what it is that Muslims actually believe, and how it is actually practiced. This is simply an objective fact. Bill Maher calls this out frequently, and has actually been called "Right Wing" for that. Again, that is objective fact. But if you're a Leftist, you can say any old hateful thing you want to about Christianity. See any "Is God real" discussion in this very subforum. You won't find a theology discussion for the most part. You'll find Leftists who are mad at Christians and thier own Christian upbringing.

 

[Happy Man]

This seems to be more of a talking point than a reality. I've never heard anybody support Islamic ideology while condemning Christian ideology. People have concocted this false narrative based on the fact that some people who are generally against religion mixing with politics happen to also support freedom of religion. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

I also noticed the other day that Joe Rogan started talking about how the left is in a tough position because one of their politicians is a Muslim and is saying anti-Semitic things. Then Bryan Callen asked if she was being more anti-Israel than anti-Semitic. At which point Joe Rogan basically acknowledged he had no idea what she had said, which means he was just regurgitating things he heard on Twitter or something.

In other words, talking out of his ass. He really shouldn't repeat talking points he hears without doing his research first.

Now, if he actually knew what she said and considered it anti-Semitic, that would be fine. But being that he had no idea what he was talking about, it would make sense to not spread that talking point.

You gotta be kidding. Or are you just trying to fool anyone who believes your statement?

 

[Islam Imamate]

As in, standing up for people who are mistreated? Well yeah, that is something all Americans should do.

There seems to be this misconception that the left hates Christianity, even though much of the left is made up of various Christians. For example, the Catholic church is by far the largest group of Christians in the country (70,000,000 people), and there are more Catholics on the left than on the right (44% vs 37%).

The left (however the hell we're defining that) does not hate Christianity. Much of the left is Christian.

That's at the level of the voters but when it comes to leftist elites they very much disproportionately possess a disdain for religion generally and Christianity in particular and to the extent that they don't criticize Muslims its often to avoid appearing bigoted towards a seemingly marginalized minority that generally votes for Democrats. In fact even among Christians this holds as black Christians are on average more socially conservative than white ones but its nonetheless the straight white Christian male that remains the boogeyman for left wing secularists.

 

[nac386]

That's at the level of the voters but when it comes to leftist elites they very much disproportionately possess a disdain for religion generally and Christianity in particular and to the extent that they don't criticize Muslims its often to avoid appearing bigoted towards a seemingly marginalized minority that generally votes for Democrats. In fact even among Christians this holds as black Christians are on average more socially conservative than white ones but its nonetheless the straight white Christian male that remains the boogeyman for left wing secularists.

I'm not sure who the leftist elites are. Phrases like that seem to come directly from the talking points well, and I tend to think that well is full of nonsense. A leftist doesn't get any more "elite" than Barack Obama, who is a Christian man raising a Christian family and is almost universally loved by the left. A right winger does not get any more "elite" than Donald Trump, who just may be the least religious President we've ever had in the modern era.

It's just a talking point, nothing more. Leftists hate Christians? Well, the reality of the situation is that tens of millions of Christians are leftists. In the 2018 midterm elections, 50% of Catholics voted Democrat. That's a whole lot of religious love for the left.

And leftists hate religion in general? 79% of Jewish people voted for Democrats in the midterm elections. 73% of other religious people voted for Democrats.

Hell, even 42% of Protestants voted for Democrats.

The only religious group that is hardcore right wing are Evangelicals, and they certainly do not represent all religion or even the majority of Christians. Sometimes I think that when people say "Christians" they are actually only referring to Evangelicals.

It's a talking point that leftists hate Christians and all other religions is honestly a bit offensive to Christians who are not Evangelicals (the vast majority) and all the other religious people who are leftists. They all hate themselves? Not a chance. Most people I know are religious and Democrats, and it's all backed up in the numbers.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...igious-groups-voted-in-the-midterm-elections/

You gotta be kidding. Or are you just trying to fool anyone who believes your statement?

You have to use some sort of support to deny what I'm saying. I just listed the facts, with the supporting evidence. Are you claiming that Pew is lying?

 

[Islam Imamate]

I'm not sure who the leftist elites are. Phrases like that seem to come directly from the talking points well, and I tend to think that well is full of nonsense. A leftist doesn't get any more "elite" than Barack Obama, who is a Christian man raising a Christian family and is almost universally loved by the left. A right winger does not get any more "elite" than Donald Trump, who just may be the least religious President we've ever had in the modern era.

It's just a talking point, nothing more. Leftists hate Christians? Well, the reality of the situation is that tens of millions of Christians are leftists. In the midterm elections, 50% of Catholics vote Democrat.

And leftists hate religion in general? 79% of Jewish people voted for Democrats in the midterm elections. 73% of other religious people voted for Democrats.

Hell, even 42% of Protestants voted for Democrats.

The only religious group that is hardcore right wing are Evangelicals, and they certainly do not represent all religion or even the majority of Christians.

It's a talking point that leftists hate Christians and all other religions is honestly a bit offensive to Christians who are not Evangelicals (the vast majority) and all the other religious people who are leftists. They all hate themselves? Not a chance. Most people I know are religious and Democrats, and it's all backed up in the numbers.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...igious-groups-voted-in-the-midterm-elections/

Again you're talking about the level of the voter which is not what I am talking about so your rattling off of stats doesn't really address my point. 28% of Democrats are religiously unaffiliated and its the religiously unaffiliated section of the party that is more civically engaged and has a disproportionate impact on the character of the party. Saying that the left hates Christians is pushing it but wherever there is criticism of Christianity in society it almost always comes from secular leftists, a non-negligible portion of which show an unwillingness to criticize non-white Christians and non-Christians.

 

[nac386]

Again you're talking about the level of the voter which is not what I am talking about so your rattling off of stats doesn't really address my point. 28% of Democrats are religiously unaffiliated and its the religiously unaffiliated section of the party that is more civically engaged and has a disproportionate impact on the character of the party. Saying that the left hates Christians is pushing it but wherever there is criticism of Christianity in society it almost always comes from secular leftists, a non-negligible portion of which show an unwillingness to criticize non-white Christians and non-Christians.

My stats absolutely address the point. But my stats are actual facts as opposed to the general feeling that people have, so on this forum they have a hard time working reality into their established world view.

If you want to use very measured language in approaching this topic, then that is fine. You could reasonably say that there is a "negligible" portion of Democrats who do not appreciate the influence of religion on government.

But that's not the type of language we see. What we see is that the left hates Christians (ridiculous), and the left hates religion in general (ridiculous and contradictory with other ridiculous accusations).

Meanwhile, tens of millions of Christian Democrats and the vast majority of non-Christian religious people around the country are just shaking their head at these meme-level accusations.