Rival V.S. Hayabusa

[ninjaunicorn]

Hey guys, so I've run into a tough decision. Right now, I'm looking at two gloves. The Hayabusa 16 ounce sparring gloves, and the Rival Elite 14 ounce bag gloves. They are roughly the same price, and I plan on using them mainly for bag work. So if anybody could give me some insight on which bag provides better wrist support. It would be greatly appreciated.
Rival Elites:
Rival Elite Bag Gloves from Title Boxing
Hayabusas:
Hayabusa Pro 16oz. Sparring Gloves (Black or White) - MMAWarehouse.com

 

[Arkitekt]

If you're doing bagwork and you decide to go the Hayabusa route, they have gloves designed for bagwork already...

Hayabusa Pro 10 oz. Bag Gloves - MMAWarehouse.com

 

[ninjaunicorn]

Yeah, I looked into those, but I felt like they didn't offer enough protection.

 

[Arkitekt]

Correct me if i'm mistaken because this is second hand information. I believe Hayabusa was able to design the 10oz bag gloves with less weight because of the quality of the foam padding inside.

I only have experience with my Hayabusa MMA Hybrid gloves. I can't say for sure they share the exact same foam but considering the weight and thickness of my gloves you'd think your knuckles would be sore and torn up from using them but it couldn't be farther from the truth. Hayabusa does some great things with their products, I don't know what but they do.

Maybe someone who owns the 10oz Hayabusa Bag Gloves can chime in.

 

[moundpounders32]

i have the busa 16 ouncers, they have great wrist protection and the padding is stiff...they seem much larger in all areas then my rival rs# bag gloves (i forgot wich ones they are, they are ones with the micro fiber instead of leather) wich i also like the closure in them, if i were to get one just for bag work, i dont think theres anything wrong with the rivals from the research i did before i made my purchases...however theres pretty zero chance youll want to spar with them...if you are going to use it for mainly bag work, but spar here and there, go with the busas

 

[ECS123]

Both companies make very nice quality gloves, there is not too much question about that. However, if you intend to use them primarily for bag work, it would be logical to go with a bag glove. When companies designate gloves as sparring gloves, even though the padding may be on the dense side, they are still primarily intended for sparring purposes, and will probably not function really well for a lot of bag work.

The only alternative would be to select a training glove, but that gets back to my theory that it is really tough to get by with one pair of gloves for everything.

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[Stevo3385]

I have the 16 oz hayabusa's and absolutely love them. Use them for bag work, pads and sparring. Everyone at the gym has told me they think there best, only bad I've ever heard is about how expensive they are. I've had mine for going on 1 year, going to the gym 4-5 times a week, and there still like new, so maybe you do get what you pay for.

I have tried on the 10oz bag gloves from hayabusa and although they also seemed very high quality, I didn't think they offered as much protection as the 16's.

 

[FIGHTER1980]

I have the Hayabusa 10 oz. bag gloves and I have a pair of the Rival Ultra bag gloves. I used to have a pair of the Rival Elite bag gloves (red/gray) but didn't really care much for the cross velcro adjustment so I sold them to a friend for cheap. The Hayabusas are very good gloves and offer good wrist support (I still wrap my hands and wrist good). IMO they offer just as much protection in the knuckles if not a little better than the Rivals and they're a little lighter. My IMF's are still my favorite though.

 

[Mumrik]

i have the busa 16 ouncers, they have great wrist protection and the padding is stiff...they seem much larger in all areas then my rival rs# bag gloves (i forgot wich ones they are, they are ones with the micro fiber instead of leather) wich i also like the closure in them, if i were to get one just for bag work, i dont think theres anything wrong with the rivals from the research i did before i made my purchases...however theres pretty zero chance youll want to spar with them...if you are going to use it for mainly bag work, but spar here and there, go with the busas

No wonder the Hayabusas are bigger in every way. They're 16oz and your Rival Ultra bag gloves are 12oz. The Rival Ultra gloves are okay gloves but the the price is too high for what you get. The wrist support isn't that great btw - the strap is just not wide enough.

 

[ninjaunicorn]

Alright thanks guys, I'm going to go with the Hayabusa 16 once gloves. Although I will put the 10 ounce bag gloves on my list if I happen to come by some cash.

 

[moundpounders32]

No wonder the Hayabusas are bigger in every way. They're 16oz and your Rival Ultra bag gloves are 12oz. The Rival Ultra gloves are okay gloves but the the price is too high for what you get. The wrist support isn't that great btw - the strap is just not wide enough.

obviously, what i was tryin to say i guess is that even for 16oz gloves, they just seem big...maybe its cuz i dont think of 4 ounces being a huge difference, but they seem like big ol pillows after i have the bag gloves on

 

[Gonzaginator]

They arent that big for 16oz gloves. If you compare them to other 16oz gloves they're pretty much the same. Of course they're gonna look much bigger compared to 12oz gloves, thats normal. Every 16oz glove does. Especially when its the first time you put them on, but you will get used to it after a few workouts so dont worry about that. Then when you put on the 12oz gloves they will seem pretty small and its much easier to train with them because you're used to wearing the 16oz gloves.

 

[BushidoWarfare]

I have the Hayabusa 10 oz. bag gloves and I have a pair of the Rival Ultra bag gloves. I used to have a pair of the Rival Elite bag gloves (red/gray) but didn't really care much for the cross velcro adjustment so I sold them to a friend for cheap. The Hayabusas are very good gloves and offer good wrist support (I still wrap my hands and wrist good). IMO they offer just as much protection in the knuckles if not a little better than the Rivals and they're a little lighter. My IMF's are still my favorite though.

The 10oz Hayabusa bag gloves are outstanding. Personally, I don't bother with wrapping my hands when I use them. My hands are pretty big and wraps would make them much tougher to get on. They are pretty compact compared to 16oz gloves, but with the Hayabusa wrist closure I hit full power with no worries (and I'm using a really stiff new thai bag right now). I was lucky and picked them up around Christmas when MMA Warehouse had a 20% off sale. I even got free shipping with the offer. They are definitely worth full purchase price, though.

 

[Mumrik]

.maybe its cuz i dont think of 4 ounces being a huge difference, but they seem like big ol pillows after i have the bag gloves on

What!?
4oz is a huge difference. You're adding 33% of pure padding. On top of that training gloves generally aren't as compact as bag gloves.

I own both 12oz and 16oz Heatseekers and compared to the 16s the 12s look and feel like they're made for women and children.

 

[moundpounders32]

jesus christ, fine your a super genius glove guru and im a moron because in my head 4 ounces doesnt sound like very much (even though i already said i realize its big difference)

 

[tiger.shark]

jesus christ, fine your a super genius glove guru and im a moron because in my head 4 ounces doesnt sound like very much (even though i already said i realize its big difference)

I think it is fair to call Mumrik glove guru

 

[Mumrik]

Nah, I'm no guru and it sounds like the guy thinks I have it in for him.

I just think his mind is playing with him a bit
It is clearly a big difference objectively, but I can see how it might feel even bigger when you wear the gloves. To me the switch from 12 to 16 is enough weight wise to change the way I punch.

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I guess that also could be relevant for the thread starter - I've come to realize that I prefer lighter gloves on the heavy bag. By lighter I don't mean MMA gloves or traditional bag gloves, I just mean 12oz. super bag gloves. Most of the gloves I use are 12 or 16oz and when I use the 16s the more tired I get the more haymaker-ish my punches tend to get. That doesn't happen to nearly the same degree with the 12oz gloves but at the same time they may not work my power as much - who knows... My focus is on technique though, so I'd rather use the 12s.

You mentioned wrist support, and that should be pretty much the same regardless of whether you pick 12s, 14s, 16s or even heavier gloves. The padding over you knuckes/fingers will be much more different though, so if you have weaknesses there, that might factor into the decision.