RIP Mikhail Gorbachev

[Prefect]

I thought he checked out 30 odd years ago.

He sort of did. He was critical of Putin and weighed his words heavily. He would sometimes say something that if had been about anyone else, you wouldn't have thought much of it but because the mild criticism was about Putin you tell he was only giving you the tip of the iceberg.

 

[ICHEERTHEBULL]

Yeah let's take his word for it. <Lmaoo>

Its pretty much accepted, you can even read the transcripts that were never disputed. Obviously he should have gotten a agreement signed on paper but what do you expect from a useless cunt like him. No doubt the EU will be fawning over him and lowering their flags in respect today but his legacy will always stabbing the people in the back.

 

[TheTickG]

He was distraught over his legacy being ruined with pizza hut and McDonald's leaving Russia

He had good intentions, but his reforms didn't work out because how rotted the Soviet system was. I wonder if someone else came in power after Chernenko how different Russia, and the world would look

I would be far more distraught over having that kind of legacy as opposed to ruining it.

 

[rj144]

 

[theBloB]

May you rest in peace you great man.

I will miss him very much. He has been there for throughout my life. He paved the way for a free Europe. He gave hope and a confidence that made my country dismantle large parts of the military. I've always been interested in what he had to say in his older days.

It is simply too depressing that a paranoid warmonger who suffers from inferiority complex has completely demolished what Gorbachev created.

Go fuck yourself Pootin!

 

[Zinger]

Lol that isnt what happened either dude. Gorby was a committed communist and Soviet who tried everything in his power to preserve as much of the Soviet Union as he could until the hardliners couped him and he lost all control of the process. There was the 1991 Soviet Union Referendum and the New Union Treaty that was Gorbachev's actual political goal not dissolution. Once Gorby got discredited by his own people the nationialists in the individual republics gained control of the narrative and it shifted from ratifying the new union treaty to full independence for the individual republics. Before that Gorbachev was going to reform the Soviet Union minus the Baltics into the "Union of Sovereign States" with a more democratic tilt but still firmly socialist and not a pro-western free-market liberal-democracy lol.

I guess he was remarkably lucky in how he managed to avoid a civil war when the coup against him flopped and discredited the hardliners along with himself, but it wasnt due to any sort of genius political machinations by him.

You make it sound like relatively peaceful dissolution was some sort of master scheme he was planning all along behind the scenes and not a happy accident that occured on his shift.

Without the Baltics?

Guy sent tanks, army and OMON to Riga and Vilnius in 1991 after we voted for our desire to leave the Soviet Union, in order to scare us back into submission. There was urban combat, innocent people were being shot in the streets.

We were lucky that Gorbachev was a pussy and was afraid to spill more blood.

 

[Young Calf Kick]

A good man.

He agreed to the reunification of East and West Germany on the condition that NATO would not move "one inch to the East'.

Of course NATO double-crossed him later and we are seeing the consequences today.

False

 

[THEfightsAREfixed]

Seemed like a decent fellow all said and done.

RIP

 

[StonedLemur]

R.I.P Gorbby

 

[ChickenBrother]

As Zangief player i will salute him in the only possible way

Lol that ending was epic. I also loved playing Zangief.

 

[ferrisjso]

He's controversial in leftist circles because many see him as having destroyed the USSR. But there were a lot of moving parts there I feel it's unfair to pin that all on him.

I think he's more of a Bernie case where he was trying to do good but was a weaker individual than those he needed to oppose. He tried and I respect that.

 

[Contempt]

A good man.

He agreed to the reunification of East and West Germany on the condition that NATO would not move "one inch to the East'.

Of course NATO double-crossed him later and we are seeing the consequences today.

NATO didn't ask the Baltic countries to join, they asked to join NATO to avoid being invaded by Russia... exactly like we're seeing today.

 

[Teppodama]

Got a cameo by Lenin, Gorby and Putin.

 

[skold]

Obligatory

 

[Teppodama]

Obligatory

LMAO

 

[Poatan Power]

This isn't really the case at all. Reagan didn't bring down the Soviet Union. Gorbachev did and without bloodshed or himself getting killed by the hardliners. History will always be written that Reagan won but it was Gorbchev that was doing Game of Thrones level politicking to change everything. The revolution wouldn't have happened had a man who maybe comes along once every 100 years managed to rise to power in Russia. Calling the man remarkable is an understatement.

Jesus Christ. Yes, the leader of the free world had nothing to do with it at all.

Garbage take for the sake of stealing credit from the most universally liked President of all time.

 

[jamel]

I mean he coulda picked a healthier company than McDonalds tho…

like a Jazzercise studio.

 

[Source]

He was great in Rocky IV.

 

[Deleted member 449757]

Thanks for killing the USSR Gorby. RIP.

 

[Prefect]

Jesus Christ. Yes, the leader of the free world had nothing to do with it at all.

Garbage take for the sake of stealing credit from the most universally liked President of all time.

Leader of the free world? What the fuck are you talking about. Reagan was involved in fuckery all over the globe. His administration was full on corrupt and had more indictments than Trump's.