Right Hook

[shincheckin]

You need to move to your right more (as per the pic) hook needs to be placed almost as if it's part hook part upper cut and land coming up and round into the floating rib, you need to look more at the structure of the human anatomy to give you more info as to what does damage more.

Partner drills, take it very light and practice placement of the punch, be honest with each other and give indication of effective placement of the punch.

yeah I was thinking of finding a way to hit the back more, maybe loop the punch around, maybe stop targeting the "body" and more focus on the kidney.

 

[zapataxiv]

yeah so how can we be kidney punching if kidney punches are illegal? I think it means punching the kidney from the back, like attacking a opponent from the back. I think if you can punch the kidney by looping the punch around would be sort of a grey area? Or totally legal?

Lets find ways we can target the kidney more while remaining legal or "gray area", punching someone in the Right side of the body definitely does not have the same effect as hitting the back of the kidney by looping or cutting angle.

Basically I was sitting there like, how can I make my Right Body punches more effective? Better to target the kidney rather than the body. How can I target the kidney better? A big clean Right hook to the body wont drop a guy, but a big clean Right hook to the kidney will.

I have landed the right hook to the body and head in probably everyone of my fights, but never had the Right hook to the body cause the same amount of damage as a liver punch, so I figure I need to target the kidney better. How can we rip the kidney better? I am thinking I should be trying to have my punch loop around a bit or something.

Typically my right hooks have been targeted and landing on the Right side of the body, im sure they hurt but didnt put anyone down, however I think a clean shot to the kidney would. take a look at my punch placement.

so how can we target the kidney better with the Right hook??

Like most fouls it becomes pretty gray in the haze of combat and really it’s like from the back or clinched.
My feeling is it gets called less the. Punching to the back of the head because it’s not the head..
I honestly don’t know about that but this thread reminded me of the SRL vs Mayweather SR. Fight. As in Leonard used it a lot and had good work with the RH to the body especially against somebody who was shelling up. Leonard didn’t really rip with the right hook but more used it s a tap/feint etc to get Floyd to open up top or his breadbasket for a nasty left shot.

If you are looking for a nice powerful right hand shot to the body I would say look into the right uppercut. That’s a nice power shot or great to slap into the soft meat and then hit with a nice driven left upper.

 

[shincheckin]

Like most fouls it becomes pretty gray in the haze of combat and really it’s like from the back or clinched.
My feeling is it gets called less the. Punching to the back of the head because it’s not the head..
I honestly don’t know about that but this thread reminded me of the SRL vs Mayweather SR. Fight. As in Leonard used it a lot and had good work with the RH to the body especially against somebody who was shelling up. Leonard didn’t really rip with the right hook but more used it s a tap/feint etc to get Floyd to open up top or his breadbasket for a nasty left shot.

If you are looking for a nice powerful right hand shot to the body I would say look into the right uppercut. That’s a nice power shot or great to slap into the soft meat and then hit with a nice driven left upper.

its strange because I am finding things I do in fights that I dont typically train a lot, i mean of course I work right hook on the pads but not often as its in overlooked punch, yet I do it in all my fights, so it might be a good idea to work it.

Before I made this thread I was under the impression kidney shots are legal, because why not target the kidney like you can target the liver? And I have been hit in the kidney in sparring and it hurts very bad. I think a well placed R hook to the kidney is probably a very effective shot. I dont think its illegal to target the kidney, just not punch it from behind, as if I was standing behind him for example, thats how Im taking it.......I am thinking that either looping my R hook around could do it, or cutting a angle, similar to kicking people in the back of the head trick. I think this should be legal or gray

 

[zapataxiv]

its strange because I am finding things I do in fights that I dont typically train a lot, i mean of course I work right hook on the pads but not often as its in overlooked punch, yet I do it in all my fights, so it might be a good idea to work it.

Before I made this thread I was under the impression kidney shots are legal, because why not target the kidney like you can target the liver? And I have been hit in the kidney in sparring and it hurts very bad. I think a well placed R hook to the kidney is probably a very effective shot. I dont think its illegal to target the kidney, just not punch it from behind, as if I was standing behind him for example, thats how Im taking it.......I am thinking that either looping my R hook around could do it, or cutting a angle, similar to kicking people in the back of the head trick. I think this should be legal or gray

I could see that looping it around and trying to get that knuckle to kidney contact.
Also pivoting out to the right and then walloping it quick. Report back on your findings

 

[shincheckin]

I could see that looping it around and trying to get that knuckle to kidney contact.
Also pivoting out to the right and then walloping it quick. Report back on your findings

yeah i havent been hit there in a long time, i think its when were doing body shot sparring only for fun, yeah you step to the side and wack them behind the back a little. Ok so now that we are on board with targeting the kidney from these angles, my question really is how to work this in training? When you Right hook the body on the pads, its to the body, not the kidney, its teaching you to place it to the body, not the kidney, gotta find a way to regularly train to target the kidney, to make it come out naturally in sparring/fighting

 

[zapataxiv]

yeah i havent been hit there in a long time, i think its when were doing body shot sparring only for fun, yeah you step to the side and wack them behind the back a little. Ok so now that we are on board with targeting the kidney from these angles, my question really is how to work this in training? When you Right hook the body on the pads, its to the body, not the kidney, its teaching you to place it to the body, not the kidney, gotta find a way to regularly train to target the kidney, to make it come out naturally in sparring/fighting

Maybe some partnered work.
Ie do some prerecorded set ups and then do some light fighting out of the situation. For example maybe do the set up as a counter pivot out from a lead side shot hit the shot and then fight it out from there.

 

[shincheckin]

Maybe some partnered work.
Ie do some prerecorded set ups and then do some light fighting out of the situation. For example maybe do the set up as a counter pivot out from a lead side shot hit the shot and then fight it out from there.

ahh yes, that is a good idea, drilling combined with controlled sparring

 

[shincheckin]

been searching for this one for a while and stumbled across it, good stuff about the R hook. Also check ramons footwork for the combo at about 1:36

 

[Boxing_paloney]

The way Zambidis blocked kicks then threw his right, that always seemed useful.

 

[Blowing Dixie]

I'm mainly a kicks and knees guy so I really only throw hooks to the head and liver, and since I only use the right hook when in southpaw stance it's kind of limited in use, but still great for countering left jabs or left crosses.

 

[Mr_Hodge]

So the right hook I think is probably one of the more under utilized punches, but its an effective punch and plenty of fighters have used it well. Given that is somewhat overlooked i thought it would be a good idea to make a thread on them and get everyones input we all probably learn a thing or two.

what is your target point for the Right hook? What do you think of kidney punching?

I guess it is quite underutilized, then again if it's read it's more easily countered so it's just alot easier to train your lead hook because you don't have to commit to it as much and can still pinpoint on the temple or behind the ear. I only really pinpoint the jaw with overhands and occasionally straights

 

[William Huggins]

The way Zambidis blocked kicks then threw his right, that always seemed useful.

Yeah until he fights someone that keeps smashing his blocking arms with kicks on purpose, that takes the power out of his most effective weapon.....

 

[Boxing_paloney]

Yeah until he fights someone that keeps smashing his blocking arms with kicks on purpose, that takes the power out of his most effective weapon.....

Just don't fight Buakaw

 

[SandaKicker]

I thought Barrera did a great job of using the right hook against Hamed in their fight many years ago.

He set it up with the jab circling to his left until he got a good angle;