Review: Gladiator Elite Combat Mouthguard

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Review of the new Gladiator Elite Combat Mouthguard.


This guard is apparently modelled after a design made for the IFL's Silverbacks(Team Miletich). It differs from the Elite model in that the guard is several milimeters thicker at rear of the guard.The front of the guard is approximately 1/8 of an inch thick and the rear is 1/4 of an inch thick. As a result when you wear the guard your bottom front teeth will not contact the guard, in essence creating a 1/8" gap or breathing channel. I had some initial reservations and concerns that your bottom front teeth may be more prone to being damaged or knocked out. Only one way to find out and that was to put it to the test.

So, instead of the double I've been using for sparring I wore the new Elite Combat. With your chin tucked it's exceedingly difficult to have any shot land flush with your lower front teeth. Only on my back with opponent in side control or mount could a shot be delivered that could make flush contact and knock out teeth. Even the likelihood of that occurring is low but may still be a cause for concern for some people. I always intended to put a lower impression into the guard. So I ran home and boiled a pot of water. Submerse the bottom of the guard in the boiling water for 25 secs then put it in your mouth and bite down creating the lower impression. I bit down until my lower front teeth just barely touched the guard. The bottom molars sit nicely in the guard yet hardly make a noticeable impression when viewed from the side. Nonetheless all the lower teeth make contact with the guard and your jaw is fully stabilized, no lateral movement. I can still breathe through the guard without any problems and I could still make a deeper lower impression though this would inhibit breathing.

So how does this new design compare to others. Well, with this guard you can make a lower impression that will prevent your jaw from moving laterally yet still allows you to breathe through your mouth. With my old Elite or even the Protech guard it was a bit difficult to make a lower impression without biting through the guard. As a result the lower impression in the guard was minimal and if you got tagged with a good shot to the jaw it would move laterally. With this new guard it's also quite a bit easier to exhale when throwing a strike without having to drop your jaw and thus provides better safety.
**Pics below**

Standard top view of guard.
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Front of the guard-You can note the thickness in the front which is ~1/8"
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Side view of guard. Again you can see how the back of guard is 1/4" thick and tapers to 1/8" in the front. Also note that the bottom impression cannot be seen.
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Pics of the bottom of the guard, Here you can see the impression of my molars. In the second pic you can notice a slight impression of the front teeth.
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Sorry for the poor quality of the pics but the clear color just doesn't pic up contrast and detail well. It does however illustrate the difference in the thickness of the guard.
 
Thanks for the review! I plan on getting a Gladiator mouthguard, but the guy hasn't replied to my email. Do you know if they ship worldwide? (Canada to be more specific).
 
nice review. by the way, i heard that customguards.com will have the Combat Pro and Combat Elite on their site starting next year.

how did you get gladiator's new model?
 
I'm sorry, but I think having paper between the layers with their name is really cheesy looking. That's always been my big complaint with Gladiator. Even in their ads in the magazines, the skull and crossbones is an obvious paper cutout. I know the main purpose is protection, but for the $$$ I want something that looks as good as it protects.
 
Thanks for the review! I plan on getting a Gladiator mouthguard, but the guy hasn't replied to my email. Do you know if they ship worldwide? (Canada to be more specific).
I would think they could ship to Canada but you never know. I've always had quick email response and you can also call them too, 1-877-848-2737. But with X-mas approaching they may be bust but I'm sure they will respond.



nice review. by the way, i heard that customguards.com will have the Combat Pro and Combat Elite on their site starting next year.

how did you get gladiator's new model?

It's a secret. :) You can get the guard now you just have to ask them.

I'm sorry, but I think having paper between the layers with their name is really cheesy looking. That's always been my big complaint with Gladiator. Even in their ads in the magazines, the skull and crossbones is an obvious paper cutout. I know the main purpose is protection, but for the $$$ I want something that looks as good as it protects.

I don't mind the little logos and obviously with my plain jane clear guard I don't care too much about the styling. It's rarely going to be seen by anyone so not a big deal to me. But I can see how the flat paper design looks a bit cheap. Very few companies can offer the customization and 3-d guards that Tom did. He made me a nice camo one that I should have kept or at least taken some pics of. But for the price and quality of the guard I don't think you can beat Gladator.
 
There are several glaring flaws I see in the design of this guard and I urge you not to use it. First and foremost the guard lacks proper extension to cover all the posterior teeth. Oftentimes companies will cover the entire 2nd molar but only half the 1st molar as evident in your pics. They do this to reduce the "gag factor" but it compromises safety. If the guard isn't of sufficient thickness it is possible that the mandibular condyle can contact the posterior wall of the fossa resulting in concussion and other brain trauma. This guard is certainly thick enough to allow adequate spacing of temperomandibular joint but leads into the next issue.

While increasing the TMJ may prevent concussion it can also lead to dislocation or condylar fracture. This is why most guards are 3-5mm thick as they provide enough gap to prevent condyle-fossa contact thus reducing the event of concussion but also small enough to prevent incidence of fracture or dislocation. This guard is one-quarter of an inch which is 8mm thick and as a result it increases the likelihood of damaging the mandible. You have attemtped to rectify this by casting a lower impression thus eliminating any "lateral movement". There are several problems with this.

It does not appear that the mandibular incisors nor canines make contact with the guard. In essence you have transformed the manidble into the maxilla with no protection. The reason the maxilla or upper teeth are more prone to being damaged or knocked out is due to the upper jaw being in a fixed position. Whereas with the mandible the force of a blow will be buffered with the reactive motion of the jaw.

The last issue concerns the lack of a protruding gum shield which protects the maxilla and tooth root.This guard has no relief for the frenulum and as such does not appear to protect much of the gingiva and it's underlying structures. A proper guard should extend far up the gingiva to near where it intersects with the lip. Given the glaring flaws in the design of this guard I would urge you not to use it in any scenario in which there could be contact with your face. It may be suitable for football or another sport where a shield is worn but it is wholy inadequate for boxing, kickboxing or MMA. I strongly encourage you to contact Gladiator and have them make you a new guard that will offer protection suitable for MMA. If they cannot comply then look into a guard from Opro, SmartGuards, Jawzz, StarsGuards or other competent vendor producing a guard for MMA.
 
paravant,

Just curious: who might you be exactly? I like that you are critical, but honestly, last time I checked there is not much scientific evidence that suggest that the specific points you mentioned make for a better guard....
 
I tried to take pics while wearing the guard but they came out blurry. I'm not sure if it's due to the clear guard but the camera does not seem to want to focus in macro mode. If I can get a better cam I'll see if the quality doesn't come out better.

I don't know who this paravant character is but he/she does appear to have a fair bit of knowledge on the subject matter. I wonder if that person is indeed associated with a rival mouthguard company.

The gumshield is a little low but that's my preference. I don't know if I did indeed compromise the protection of the guard by putting the lower imrpession in. I doubt anybody who produces guards would care to comment to the concerns raised by paravant. I guess I'll just continue to use the guard nad should any incidence arise I'll keep you all informed.
 
camera on a book shelf.

coutndown timeer

stand with guard in mouth

very easy :p

~Foz
 
Perfy,

Make sure you take the photo when there is plenty of light. Do it during the daytime with your windows open. I don't think macro mode is exactly necessary; you can use normal mode at high resolution and just crop. :)

As for the mouthguard "flaws," I remember that some of these issues were brought up before, and John from Gladiator made some interesting posts defending his product.
 
I had to go with a thin mouth guard because the thick ones were giving me the TMJ problems mentioned by that banned contributor.
 
I've tried those suggestions and still cannot obtain a suitable pic. Lighting isn't the issue but rather the translucency of the guard. The camera cannot seem to focus on it. I may try just putting it on the impression and seeing if that resolves the issue but I don't think it will. Coincidentally I have a Pro model in black and it photographs fine so I believe it's due to the color of the guard.

JRT6: Initially I noticed the potential issue with the TMJ gap but putting the lower impression in seems to solve the issue. Now I'm a bit concerned with the height of the gumshield and the protection to the lower front teeth. It hasn't posed a problem so far but I haven't trained much this past week.
 
JRT6: Initially I noticed the potential issue with the TMJ gap but putting the lower impression in seems to solve the issue. Now I'm a bit concerned with the height of the gumshield and the protection to the lower front teeth. It hasn't posed a problem so far but I haven't trained much this past week.

Maybe the lower impression would help things a bit for me. I took my thick guards with me to the dentist and he showed me how they were setting my TMJ off and the last I need is to get arthritis in my jaw. I have a thin guard that wouldn't do well from a punch to the front of the mouth but with way my TMJ is and the fact I tend to bite hard on the guard the thinner one is the lesser of two evils.
 
i have the same mouthguard and i don't really like it. It's not as high up on my teeth as i would like it to be for the kind of money it costs. and b4 anyone says something, YES i made the impression kit right.
 
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