International Republicans, do you want illegals processed into the country or to keep them out?

[F1980]

If you had only these two options. The border bill that was put up awhile back would put more money into border agents to better "process" the illegals into the country. The republicans voted no on it.

the other option is to keep the illegals out. No getting processed into the country. They can wait at the mexico side of the border wall. They are not allowed it at all.

which of these two options do you want? Another poster on here is claiming that more money for hiring more border patrol, not to stop illegals from coming in, but more of them to "process" more illegals into the country. Which I dont believe is what Republicans want.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

I think most people want immigrants, but they want legal immigrants.

Screen them, make it easier, let more in. But tighten up border security.

This is common sense. With no screening, you get the good and the bad. With screening, ideally, it will be mostly good.

 

[Yehudim]

We’ve done plenty of the letting them in since 80s, I don’t get what the point of pretending to have a legal immigration system is if we’re just constantly going to allow people in then reward them because we feel bad that they have been here a long time.

 

[b-hop]

Obviously the second one. I rather privilegiate other sources of immigration if we need immigrants anyway.

 

[I Am Legion]

1. Let in true Asylum seekers---prosecuted people for their religion or political beliefs whose lives are in danger.
2. Everyone that has been here longer than 10 years and has contributed to taxes and the work force---get them a fast path to citizenship.
3. Dreamers, kids, fast path to citizenship.
4. Criminals, gang members, single able- bodied men, people from enemies of the state, send them back.
5. Families stay, but off the dole after a period of time. No generational welfare.
6. Close the border completely until we deal with what is already here.

In sanctuary cities you can't arrest an immigrant and then report them to ICE, even if it is a violent felony. That is bullshit. Get rid of the criminals and gangs. Divert the money into mental health and drug addiction facilities for citizens.

 

[Mr Holmes]

Pretty much none of these people coming qualify for asylum. 1st thing that needs to happen to be honest and call this what it is: economic migration. After that we can see what type of work permits can be issued based on actual industry demand. No one should get in without a permit.

 

[White Whale]

J.D. Vance said the goal was to kick out the criminal illegals first than go on down. Keeping illegals out is the better and safer option.

 

[Rational Poster]

 

[Rational Poster]

Pretty much none of these people coming qualify for asylum. 1st thing that needs to happen to be honest and call this what it is: economic migration. After that we can see what type of work permits can be issued based on actual industry demand. No one should get in without a permit.

I mean, there absolutely are a historically large amount of legitimate asylum seekers particularly from Haiti and Venezuela, and other areas of Central America like El Salvador. And of course places like Ukraine, Palestine, Afghanistan, etc

Lots of real war and real unrest going on right now.

Are people becoming more aware of the process and seeking to exploit it? Absolutely, but that's why we needed the bill to expand and fund more immigration courts. We need to issue way more work visas and improve the process for removal/renewal.

 

[Long Dark Blues]

Thiccccccc latinas stay.

Women with thicc butts of any and all demographics stay.

 

[Mr Holmes]

I mean, there absolutely are a historically large amount of legitimate asylum seekers particularly from Haiti and Venezuela, and other areas of Central America like El Salvador. And of course places like Ukraine, Palestine, Afghanistan, etc

Lots of real war and real unrest going on right now.

Are people becoming more aware of the process and seeking to exploit it? Absolutely, but that's why we needed the bill to expand and fund more immigration courts. We need to issue way more work visas and improve the process for removal/renewal.

Wrong

The Act amended the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 by defining a refugee as any person who is outside his or her country of residence or nationality, or without nationality, and is unable or unwilling to return to, and is unable or unwilling to avail himself or herself of the protection of, that country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.

Being poor and having shitty living conditions doesn't cut it.

 

[Darkavius]

1. Let in true Asylum seekers---prosecuted people for their religion or political beliefs whose lives are in danger.
2. Everyone that has been here longer than 10 years and has contributed to taxes and the work force---get them a fast path to citizenship.
3. Dreamers, kids, fast path to citizenship.
4. Criminals, gang members, single able- bodied men, people from enemies of the state, send them back.
5. Families stay, but off the dole after a period of time. No generational welfare.
6. Close the border completely until we deal with what is already here.

In sanctuary cities you can't arrest an immigrant and then report them to ICE, even if it is a violent felony. That is bullshit. Get rid of the criminals and gangs. Divert the money into mental health and drug addiction facilities for citizens.

The problem with what you are saying Legion is many Repubs are not okay with 2 and 3. That's part of the reason why DACA ended. Another thing is I see what some people are saying it's due to economic and social issues but America is at fault for some of the migrant issues. Being in countries and messing with their leadership such as Omar Torrijos in the 70's/80's.

Also, let's say mass deportations happen as Trump wants. I am curious who is going to fill the labor void? My thinking is small towns won't be able to handle immigrants being deported at high rates because there is no one to replace that labor so you would be following immigration laws but the economy would be hurt.

 

[Fluffernutter]

1. Build the wall.
2. Double the size of the visa sections of our embassies and consulates abroad. To allow more people to obtain a visa to come to the US.

 

[Rational Poster]

Wrong


Being poor and having shitty living conditions doesn't cut it.

People in Haiti and Venezuela aren't just living in shitty conditions, they're starving to death and being hunted by criminal gangs lmao.

War refugees are also legitimate asylum seekers.

 

[SRN]

Honestly, as a legal immigrant, giving a free pass to illegals feels like a slap in the face. What’s the point of following the rules and respecting the entire process if you can just enter the country illegally? I’m afraid a lot of people don’t realize that most illegals are in that situation because they don’t qualify to immigrate legally. There are requirements, for crying out loud, and there are often good reasons for them. Generally speaking, if you cannot legally enter or legally reside in a country (any country!), it’s usually because you don’t meet the country’s specific needs or you’re seen as a potential risk to its society.

Acting like everyone crossing the border illegally is some well-intentioned dreamer is just naive. People from 1stworld countries often don’t understand how bad things can get when people who have no respect for laws are allowed to run wild. You don’t want that in your country, trust me. Protecting your borders means protecting the integrity of your society. You want good people coming in, qualified people, and you want to help those suffering persecution. There’s logic behind why immigration requirements exist.

By the way, asylum seekers don’t need to walk thousands of miles to America, they can simply go to a motherfucking embassy/consulate and ask for asylum. In some cases, they can even apply online. So let’s not pretend the hordes of people trying to cross the border are mostly asylum seekers and dreamers because that’s just nonsense.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Since immigration law is set by the justice department, can't Trump just install a total ban on asylum seekers? What's preventing the US just from installing blanket rules to deny all applications

 

[Rational Poster]

Honestly, as a legal immigrant, giving a free pass to illegals feels like a slap in the face. What’s the point of following the rules and respecting the entire process if you can just enter the country illegally? I’m afraid a lot of people don’t realize that most illegals are in that situation because they don’t qualify to immigrate legally. There are requirements, for crying out loud, and there are often good reasons for them. Generally speaking, if you cannot legally enter or legally reside in a country (any country!), it’s usually because you don’t meet the country’s specific needs or you’re seen as a potential risk to its society.

Acting like everyone crossing the border illegally is some well-intentioned dreamer is just naive. People from 1stworld countries often don’t understand how bad things can get when people who have no respect for laws are allowed to run wild. You don’t want that in your country, trust me. Protecting your borders means protecting the integrity of your society. You want good people coming in, qualified people, and you want to help those suffering persecution. There’s logic behind why immigration requirements exist.

By the way, asylum seekers don’t need to walk thousands of miles to America, they can simply go to a motherfucking embassy/consulate and ask for asylum. In some cases, they can even apply online. So let’s not pretend the hordes of people trying to cross the border are mostly asylum seekers and dreamers because that’s just nonsense.

The majority of the illegals currently in the country have entered legally and overstayed their work or student visa.

 

[rocketskates]

Easier path to citizenship for the hard working immigrants who want a better life and want to contribute to our country in a positive way (the majority of them). Deportation for the ones that are criminals, sex offenders, gang members, etc. It’s pretty simple.

I don’t have prejudices toward anyone, but the less shitbags around where I’m raising my family, the better.

 

[Darkavius]

Honestly, as a legal immigrant, giving a free pass to illegals feels like a slap in the face. What’s the point of following the rules and respecting the entire process if you can just enter the country illegally? I’m afraid a lot of people don’t realize that most illegals are in that situation because they don’t qualify to immigrate legally. There are requirements, for crying out loud, and there are often good reasons for them. Generally speaking, if you cannot legally enter or legally reside in a country (any country!), it’s usually because you don’t meet the country’s specific needs or you’re seen as a potential risk to its society.

Acting like everyone crossing the border illegally is some well-intentioned dreamer is just naive. People from 1stworld countries often don’t understand how bad things can get when people who have no respect for laws are allowed to run wild. You don’t want that in your country, trust me. Protecting your borders means protecting the integrity of your society. You want good people coming in, qualified people, and you want to help those suffering persecution. There’s logic behind why immigration requirements exist.

By the way, asylum seekers don’t need to walk thousands of miles to America, they can simply go to a motherfucking embassy/consulate and ask for asylum. In some cases, they can even apply online. So let’s not pretend the hordes of people trying to cross the border are mostly asylum seekers and dreamers because that’s just nonsense.

Your case is ideally what a country wants but given instability in many countries as you know it has to be a case by case thing. My question to you is what do you do with people like Dreamers who were brought over by their parents illegally? Additionally, those immigrants who broke the law and came over illegally I notice that legal citizens often frame them similar to how we frame prisoners when they try to adapt back into normal life.

Sure, there are those prisoners that will never adapt to normal life but some just want to live normally and they deserve a chance, just like immigrants, even though they broke the law. Although, I find it interesting that the argument is framed more of the fault of migrants crossing as opposed to the companies that are hiring illegal immigrants. I have read plenty about what to do about the migrants but less about what to do about the businesses that participate in breaking the law but overlook it because they get profit from it.

 

[Mr Holmes]

People in Haiti and Venezuela aren't just living in shitty conditions, they're starving to death and being hunted by criminal gangs lmao.

War refugees are also legitimate asylum seekers.

That still doesn't meet the definition.