Remember when Fitch stole a win from BJ Penn!?

[The Natural Born Runner]

It actually should have been a 10-7 round according to the criteria. Fitch would have won with the rule changes no doubt.

Fuck the criteria if you're telling me it's a 10-7 lol.

 

[Lucifer Alpha]

Fuck the criteria if you're telling me it's a 10-7 lol.

Penn was outlanded 149-2 in strikes and completely dominated in the grappling aspect for the entire round. The only reason you would score that a 10-9 is because you have a hard-on for Penn or hate Fitch.

 

[chitoortiz]

I had it 29-28 for BJ.

Gave Fitch the last round, but only 10-9.

 

[Turtlejuice]

Fuck the criteria if you're telling me it's a 10-7 lol.

That round fits the definition of a 10-7 perfectly. BJ did (almost literally) nothing in that round.

Spoiler

1. All bouts will be evaluated and scored by 3 judges who shall evaluate the contest from different location around the ring/fighting area. The referee may not be one of the 3 judges.
2. The 10-Point Must System will be the standard system of scoring a bout. Under the 10-Point Must Scoring System, 10 points must be awarded to the winner of the round and 9 points or less must be awarded to the loser, except for a rare even round, which is scored (10-10).
3. Judges shall evaluate mixed martial arts techniques, such as effective striking, effective grappling, control of the ring/fighting area, effective aggressiveness and defense.
4. Evaluations shall be made in the order in which the techniques appear in (c) above, giving the most weight in scoring to effective striking, effective grappling, control of the fighting area and effective aggressiveness and defense.
5. Effective striking is judged by determining the total number of legal strikes landed by a contestant.
6. Effective grappling is judged by considering the amount of successful executions of a legal takedown and reversals. Examples of factors to consider are take downs from standing position to mount position, passing the guard to mount position, and bottom position fighters using an active threatening guard.
7. Fighting area control is judged by determining who is dictating the pace, location and position of the bout. Examples of factors to consider are countering a grappler's attempt at takedown by remaining standing and legally striking, taking down an opponent to force a ground fight, creating threatening submission attempts, passing the guard to achieve mount, and creating striking opportunities.
8. Effective aggressiveness means moving forward and landing a legal strike.
9. Effective defense means avoiding being struck, taken down or reversed while countering with offensive attacks.
10. The following objective scoring criteria shall be utilized by the judges when scoring a round:
    1. a round is to be scored as a 10-10 round when both contestants appear to be fighting evenly and neither contestant shows clear dominance in a round;
    2. a round is to be scored as a 10-9 round when a contestant wins by a close margin, landing the greater number of effective legal strikes, grappling and other maneuvers;
    3. a round is to be scored as a 10-8 round when a contestant overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.
    4. a round is to be scored as a 10-7 round when a contestant totally dominates by striking or grappling in a round.
11. Judges shall use a sliding scale and recognize the length of time the fighters are either standing or on the ground, as follows:
    1. if the mixed martial artists spent a majority of a round on the canvas, then:
       1. Effective grappling is weighed first; and
       2. Effective striking is then weighed
    2. If the mixed martial artists spent a majority of a round standing, then:
       1. Effective striking is weighed first; and
       2. Effective grappling is then weighed
    3. A round is to be scored as a 10-8 round when a contestant overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.
    4. If a round ends with a relatively even amount of standing and canvas fighting, striking and grappling are weighed equally.

 

[Fight Professor]

The only Fitch fights I remember are when GSP made him his bitch, Hendricks KO'd him and the Palhares fight.

 

[WinZip]

Did Penn land any strikes in the 3rd round? Wasn't many if any at all. Where as Fitch landed over 100.

EDIT: Just checked the fightmetric.

2 strikes landed by BJ in r3, 1 significant. 0/0 Takedowns

149 stikes landed by Fitch, 26 significant. 3/3 Takedowns.

Yeah, that's what we call a "10-8" round. Even if you gave the first 2 rounds to Penn, it's still a draw. If the second round is a 10-10, Fitch wins.

 

[Bewareofdawg]

Fuck you man! haha

It was awesome when Dana called him out on it, and called JD flipping out because BJ wasn't training, then BJ said on the Countdown show that if Dana talks about his training again he'd slap him hahaha

 

[Lucifer Alpha]

Yeah, that's what we call a "10-8" round. Even if you gave the first 2 rounds to Penn, it's still a draw. If the second round is a 10-10, Fitch wins.

I don't understand the mindset of people who can watch a dude get completely dominated in the final round and then think they won the fight.

 

[chinarice]

Seeing as BJ did fuck all in the last round, 10-8 was justified.

There was absolutely nothing controversial about BJ not getting a W in that fight. He straight up didn't deserve it.

 

[WinZip]

I don't understand the mindset of people who watch a dude get completely dominated in the final round and then think they won the fight.

Well, I can't speak for fighters in general, but for Penn, I think he just never thought he lost any fight no matter what. He cried robbery in the 2nd Edgar fight I think. The only fight he "really" lost was the time he quit after the 4th round against GSP (but of course had a ton of excuses there, too). Well, that and the last fight with Edgar.

 

[dildos]

I concur ts. That was a very bad call by the judges that day. Clear decision to BJ.

 

[Lucifer Alpha]

BJ would have died if it was the standard five rounder that we have today for main events.

 

[applesbananas]

Stole the win from him? I had fitch winning. First round was 10-9 BJ, 2nd 10-9 Fitch, and I scored the 3rd 10-8 for Fitch. BJ got fucked up that last round. The punch metric was like 200-3 for Fitch.

 

[Magx951]

Well, I can't speak for fighters in general, but for Penn, I think he just never thought he lost any fight no matter what. He cried robbery in the 2nd Edgar fight I think. The only fight he "really" lost was the time he quit after the 4th round against GSP (but of course had a ton of excuses there, too). Well, that and the last fight with Edgar.

you didn't think he lost when matt hughes tko'd him?

 

[Lucifer Alpha]

 

[ilfirin]

There has never been a fighter with balls bigger than those of BJ Penn. Period.
What other natural lightweight would fight Lyoto fucking Machida at heavyweight?

 

[BIKES!]

Fitch would have been deducted 3 points in pride for that blanket round 3 where he tries nothing offensive. Round 3 9-7 Penn

 

[Goodfella86]

I actually thought BJ threw away the victory by doing NOTHING in rd3. I had Fitch 10-8 in rd 3. Fitch dominated him and hurt him. The second round was very close, too.

 

[Chomsky Honk]

stop stop stop

BJ 10-9
Fitch 10-9 (very close)
Fitch 10-8

Fitch won that

This robbery was the MMA gods apologizing to BJ for the Uno robbery

 

[chinarice]

Fitch would have been deducted 3 points in pride for that blanket round 3 where he tries nothing offensive. Round 3 9-7 Penn

So 5 points away from Penn for doing even less? 7-5 round for Fitch?