Remember, Nick Diaz is really a Jiujitsu fighter

[faiq03]

What people seem to forget, when discussing GSP vs Nick Diaz, that originally Nick started off as a jiu-jitsu fighter. When he entered MMA that's what he was known as, that's how he was introduced to the ring, "a gracie jiu-jitsu" fighter. When he fought guys like Robbie Lawler, everyone said his game plan would be to get him to the ground and be active from there, but that's not what happened. People need to remember that the whole reason he started striking and finishing guys on his feet, is because people were scared to get on the ground with him. So, its rather strange when people keep discussing, that Nicks jiu-jitsu is over rated or his jiu jitsu isn't that good. Thats not the case, the only reason most people try to bang with him, is because they dont want to be on the ground and since his fights are mostly standing, his stand-up and striking is always discussed. I think GSP is going to be weary of his ground game, like he was with Jake, when he decided to keep the fight standing.
Also if you rewatch the lawler fight, the daley fight and the second noons fight, all the commentators say is Nick should get them in his guard. And, all those fighters have great stand-up.

 

[MrSwaggerJacker**]

My face is...... FIREE!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MrKilroyT]

Yes... we know... that still doesn't mean he deserves the shot... or that he stands any kind of chance against GSP.

 

[chickenlip]

GSP would still take him down. He arguably has the best top game in the business

 

[jackietreehorn8]

I don't really care what got him started or how they described him in his first fights....I think the point is he has developed a complete game that makes him dangerous anywhere the fight goes.

I think GSP would likely be more comfortable in his guard defending and mounting whatever offense he's able to than getting outpointed on the feet. Any strategy is risky vs. Diaz, but I think he could keep out of harm's way on the ground.

 

[613]

What people seem to forget, when discussing GSP vs Nick Diaz, that originally Nick started off as a jiu-jitsu fighter. When he entered MMA that's what he was known as, that's how he was introduced to the ring, "a gracie jiu-jitsu" fighter. When he fought guys like Robbie Lawler, everyone said his game plan would be to get him to the ground and be active from there, but that's not what happened. People need to remember that the whole reason he started striking and finishing guys on his feet, is because people were scared to get on the ground with him. So, its rather strange when people keep discussing, that Nicks jiu-jitsu is over rated or his jiu jitsu isn't that good. Thats not the case, the only reason most people try to bang with him, is because they dont want to be on the ground and since his fights are mostly standing, his stand-up and striking is always discussed. I think GSP is going to be weary of his ground game, like he was with Jake, when he decided to keep the fight standing.
Also if you rewatch the lawler fight, the daley fight and the second noons fight, all the commentators say is Nick should get them in his guard. And, all those fighters have great stand-up.

No one is subbing GSP from there back! And everyone knows Nick has great BJJ but what great wrestlers has he ever subbed? None!

 

[Aaron Perls]

Condit is a great jujitsu player too.

GSP's top control is second to none.

I don't think we will ever see anyone successfully fight a healthy GSP from their back.

 

[BJJArsenal]

GSP has incredible jiu-jitsu. Diaz had Penn on his back and GSP wouldn't let BJ Penn off his back.

 

[SODACKER]

Doesn't matter really. Gsp will take him down one or twice then out strike him the rest of the fight.

 

[Jay Jay]

Nick Diaz as a Cesar Gracie BROWN BELT (or Purple)

***Ever since his last UFC stint, Nick Diaz's BJJ has developed even further to the point where Cesar Gracie awarded him a BJJ Black Belt in 2007. As a BLACK BELT, Diaz has wins over some HIGH LEVEL Black Belts in grappling matches in recent years. (Little known fact among casual fans: Diaz's BJJ > Diaz's Boxing)

Opponent #1 Bio:

Full Name: Jorge Luis Patino

Nickname: The nickname “Macaco” means monkey, the name was given by a friend of his when he was still a young child because he was always climbing up trees and jumping around.

Lineage: Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie > Helio Gracie > Rickson Gracie > Marcelo Behring > Waldomiro Perez > Jorge Patino

Main Achievements (BJJ):

2x Pan American Champion (2000 – closed the brackets with his team mate Roberto Godoi, 2001);
Pan American Silver Medallist (1997 – brown belt);
Brazilian National Bronze Medallist (2000)
Weight Division (BJJ): Meio-Pesado (194.5lbs-88kg)

Opponent #2 Bio:

Full Name: Raul Castillo
Association/Team: Macaco Gold Team

Raul has been practicing martial arts since the age of four. Achieving the rank of Black Belt at the age of eleven, under George Marenco in the style of Kami-Do-Ryu, Raul later went on to once again acheive the rank of Black Belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu at the age of twenty-two. Holding over forty titles in competitive Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and submission grappling along with a professional fight record of 6 wins and 0 loses

 

[ImPitPatPuncher]

Condit is a great jujitsu player too.

GSP's top control is second to none.

I don't think we will ever see anyone successfully fight a healthy GSP from their back.

Condit has great defensive BJJ from of his back.
He is very active and he throws a lot of strikes from of his back. His offensive submission game isn't the same as Diaz. Condit never chained any sub attacks against GSP thereby never creating a scrambling situation something where Diaz shines in.
And he never really commited on any of his submission attemps on GSP.
I still remember that Condit had his legs in a perfect triangle position but he didt even commit to it and GSP slowly worked his way out of it.

 

[ZuffaExecutive]

Diaz vs Gsp will be 1 sided George will take him down not give him and room to work for subs and just beat on him every round,i like nick he comes to fight but gsp will wrestle fuk him,his top game is so controlling and with his double leg he is an animal .

 

[Goatjc160]

Jay Jay good use of gifs to show off points. I think the Sherk video is a solid example of what could happen trying to grapple GSP. GSP is just too strong for Nick in that regard.
As many other people said, GSPs top control will be a lot for Diaz to handle. He'd never get a gogoplata on GSP since his traps are too big and he has such a wide base.

Diaz needs to use his BJJ in a way to protect himself when (not if) he gets taken down and find a way to get up and do a little damage. But ideally he needs to stay on his feet as long as he can which won't be easy to with his style of striking.

I love Nick Diaz but GSP will take it. Maybe even finish because he seems to have an actual problem with Diaz.

-Goat

 

[613]

Nick Diaz as a Cesar Gracie BROWN BELT (or Purple)

***Ever since his last UFC stint, Nick Diaz's BJJ has developed even further to the point where Cesar Gracie awarded him a BJJ Black Belt in 2007. As a BLACK BELT, Diaz has wins over some HIGH LEVEL Black Belts in grappling matches in recent years. (Little known fact among casual fans: Diaz's BJJ > Diaz's Boxing)

Opponent #1 Bio:




Opponent #2 Bio:

Are you actually banking on Nick subbing GSP?

 

[Jay Jay]

Are you actually banking on Nick subbing GSP?

I favor GSP in this match-up but Diaz has the aggressive brand of guard best suited to countering GSP's top game out of every GSP opponents. He will chain together submission after submission as a way to generate scrambles, sweep, or outright submit - relentlessly over 25 minutes, if the need be

 

[Ancient**]

I don't think anyone can sub GSP off their back at this point, not even Maia.

Your best chance at beating GSP is out striking him and stuffing the take downs, not an easy task.

 

[ImPitPatPuncher]

I don't think anyone can sub GSP off their back at this point, not even Maia.

Your best chance at beating GSP is out striking him and stuffing the take downs, not an easy task.

Weird, after GSP's last fight it made me realize that GSP could get subbed against a good guard player. Condit has good defense but he never commited on any of his sub attempts.
Condit even reversed GSP, which was impossible according to sherdog.

Let's see if GSP does a can opener to Maia or Diaz and can get away with it.

He didn't even want to take a little risk against Shields.

 

[613]

I favor GSP in this match-up but Diaz has the aggressive brand of guard best suited to countering GSP's top game out of every GSP opponents. He will chain together submission after submission as a way to generate scrambles, sweep, or outright submit - relentlessly over 25 minutes, if the need be

I get that Nick has great BJJ but NO ONE is subbing GSP! Like another poster said i don't even see Maia subbing GSP.


Honestly do not be surprised if GSP just keeps it standing and takes advantage of Nicks poor footwork

 

[613]

Weird, after GSP's last fight it made me realize that GSP could get subbed against a good guard player. Condit has good defense but he never commited on any of his sub attempts.
Condit even reversed GSP, which was impossible according to sherdog.

Let's see if GSP does a can opener to Maia or Diaz and can get away with it.

He didn't even want to take a little risk against Shields.

There is a reason why! Watch the Gracie breakdown GSP was baiting him

 

[ImPitPatPuncher]

There is a reason why! Watch the Gracie breakdown GSP was baiting him

lol if you need gracie breakdown to see that Condit never fully commited to any submission attempt or chained anything together

the can opener is a move that will expose you arms badly for armbars.
Vitor Belfort vs Jon Jones is the perfect example.

I don't remember one fully commited armbar attempt from Condit