Regarding my fight career.

If you only played one game in the NFL and you lost, were you still a pro football player? Of course.
 
Snolla said:
A poster recently claimed I don't deserve my tag. Im interested in some opinions.

I had a decent little run in Canada and somehow was considered #1 on tapology in Canada after 3 fights. I'm not sure if I totally deserved that but it was given to me and I was happy about it. I fought twice at 170 and once at 155.

I went pro and lost by RNC in the first round. That fight is available on youtube and easy to search. Felt good in there but I made mistakes. Got taken down and back taken, and in the prep I cut way too much weight at my EX coaches behest. He insisted that I drop from 190 to 145. 45lb cut in a month while working a normal job and no nutritionist or doctor is something I'm proud I was able to do, but it was stupid in hindsight.

I signed to fight again last sept but my opponent pulled.

The poster said I didn't deserve the pro fighter tag because I'm 0-1.

I feel like I earned the tag because I went through wars in amatuer, came out on top, and stepped in there against a young and very talented kid for my pro debut. I knew the weight cut was going to be devastating to experience but I did it anyways, went in there in front of my hometown and lost, and didn't bitch and moan after. I went back to the gym and signed to fight in september.

I guess my question is... do I deserve to be considered a pro? I'm fighting again next year after my wedding. I find it interesting that people all have there own outlook on what a pro athelete is and isn't. To that poster credit he didn't realize I signed for my second fight and the dude pulled after I already cut 20lb. Was a real bummer.

I'll admit I'm 34 and fight as a hobby. I'm a real estate agent and a music teacher. I do this shit for fun so I'm very proud of myself that I was able to do what I've done so far and am looking forward to my next fight. Never cutting 40 plus lb again though, that was a bonehead move and I only did it out of loyalty to my old coach. I followed his suggestion to the tee, it was the only fight of mine he was involved in, and I suffered for it.
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You’re a pro fighter my man, the poster was probably jealous and like me, hasn’t got the balls to do it. Hespect to you

<RomeroSalute>
 
Minnja said:
If you have an amateur record then you're an amateur. If you have a pro record then you're a pro. Who cares if it's just 1 fight it's not like you are trying to use that tag to pretend like you're a world champion or something
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Insert Mogan Freeman "he's right you know" gif
 
You're a pro fighter and you're worried about what some schmuck on Sherdog has to say? There's only one solution TS....
You gotta kick that Sherdogger's ass now
 
I’ll need to see your height, hairline, and bench press stats. If you don’t meet the Sherdog requirements not only will you lose your pro fighter status, but you will be permanently banned.
 
Fight me and then I'll determine if you're a pro.

I have a sunburn right now, but I'll be ready in a few weeks after treatment.

Let me know.
 
@Snolla Anyone who makes that walk to the cage to engage in mutual combat under a professional organization gets the right to where the tag. Regardless of record.

There are plenty of athletes that make it to the pros and stay for awhile some don’t. However, both are still professionals. Now go out there and kick some ass after your wedding!!
 
Im in your similar shoes, kinda cause Im done trying to prove something in combat

Went 11-1 ammy kickboxing winning a regional belt after many o’ years of TMA (2nd degree black) and kickboxing

Did ammy mma, fought all the standout wrestling killers and submitted most of them after grappling non-stop in those years. I was #2 ranked ammy in the world according to ISCF (9-3) in ‘06-‘07


Went pro with a full-time job and quit training like a savage like I did in the ammies. Fought all killers on short notice. Lost my pro bouts only by decision or submission, never hit flush. One NC due to rain (fought outside for 1rnd in a storm) and they called the event. Had 2 of my 5 pro opponents go to the UFC. I wanted to beat them and get into the WEC at that time at FW.


Ive been asked why I dont ask for the “tag”, and I dont want it, I can change my pic and be “just one of the guys”

I still maintain my nogi skills and thats about it these days and have a six-fig job (electrician)

<GinJuice>

Im a Sherdogger too and this place is brutal, I just barely recently been posting pics of my past fighting times LoL
 
kfighter said:
Did you get paid to fight? That makes you a pro. Being a pro fighter is not a big deal and anyone who puts in the effort can be one.
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This is true, that's all it is.



I had two pro fights. 5 amateur (and a few random smokers for what that's worth.)

I got paid absolute shit for the pro fights (first was 300/300, the second was 800 400/400)

But they're still pro,

The irony is both pro fights were wins under 2 minutes, easiest fights of my life. I actually had a harder time in the amateur matches (I won, but I did get hit a few times)

There is really no difference between lower level pro and amateur. Generally the same level of skilll in opponents. On average, it's random.

Though nowadays the ruleset is a bit different. (Elbows, wearing a rashguard for example)

I did my first match in around 2005 when I was 16 against an adult. And that was the roughest of them all rule wise.
They were before CAMO existed (California ammy MMA org(

Long story short, if you fought, you more than deserve your pro fighter tag. If some schmuck that probably has never even trained before is talking shit, ignore them.

Props on actually doing fights, it's a terrifying experience and such a huge leap to actually commit to taking it that far.
 
This isn’t UFC forum topic. Should be moved along with all drunken meat fist threads too.

For the 2nd time in this thread, you are a pro fighter.
 
Jk. Happy for you. Don't take the negative comments to serious around here.
 
Yeah nothing but respect from me, keep the tag and enjoy your career and life, fuck the haters.

<RomeroSalute>
 
Snolla said:
A poster recently claimed I don't deserve my tag. Im interested in some opinions.

I had a decent little run in Canada and somehow was considered #1 on tapology in Canada after 3 fights. I'm not sure if I totally deserved that but it was given to me and I was happy about it. I fought twice at 170 and once at 155.

I went pro and lost by RNC in the first round. That fight is available on youtube and easy to search. Felt good in there but I made mistakes. Got taken down and back taken, and in the prep I cut way too much weight at my EX coaches behest. He insisted that I drop from 190 to 145. 45lb cut in a month while working a normal job and no nutritionist or doctor is something I'm proud I was able to do, but it was stupid in hindsight.

I signed to fight again last sept but my opponent pulled.

The poster said I didn't deserve the pro fighter tag because I'm 0-1.

I feel like I earned the tag because I went through wars in amatuer, came out on top, and stepped in there against a young and very talented kid for my pro debut. I knew the weight cut was going to be devastating to experience but I did it anyways, went in there in front of my hometown and lost, and didn't bitch and moan after. I went back to the gym and signed to fight in september.

I guess my question is... do I deserve to be considered a pro? I'm fighting again next year after my wedding. I find it interesting that people all have there own outlook on what a pro athelete is and isn't. To that poster credit he didn't realize I signed for my second fight and the dude pulled after I already cut 20lb. Was a real bummer.

I'll admit I'm 34 and fight as a hobby. I'm a real estate agent and a music teacher. I do this shit for fun so I'm very proud of myself that I was able to do what I've done so far and am looking forward to my next fight. Never cutting 40 plus lb again though, that was a bonehead move and I only did it out of loyalty to my old coach. I followed his suggestion to the tee, it was the only fight of mine he was involved in, and I suffered for it.
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Not sure if you've ever watched it, but Brian Ortega vs Keoni Koch is one of my favorite fights of all time. Koch retired after the fight, and posted the following to Youtube. You may find some comfort in his words:

"This fight would have gotten me into the UFC.

I had committed and planned to claim RFA Championship before running hard towards the UFC title for a period of three or four years. My rationale was that I was relatively uninjured and had a lot of experience without wear and tear.

I spent some time after this fight considering my future, specifically if I still wanted to push that run. Making a trip to Milwaukee to train with my brother Erik brought a late night epiphany. Coaching , business and life aspirations would simply never be focused and effective if I trained at the level I would require of myself to continue fighting. I didn't want it enough.

Most people have no frame of reference of what it takes to be a professional fighter. There are a lot of people who fight professionally that are just pretending. They dedicate a small amount of time. More accurately hobbyists. Out of the pool of people calling themselves professionals, very few actually are. Their time and wear is considerable. Their potential is formidable. Fewer still are those who can compete among the very best, those who dedicate the appropriate time and do it the right way. And most important to claim the crown, you have to come back after the losses.

I admire the resolve of those like my brother who have made a career in the hottest of fire. I enjoy the incredible perspective fight prep and fighting itself taught me about myself. I did not care about the titles as much as Brian and others did. They deserved to be there more than I did.

When I walked down the stairs that night with my Thor Hammer in hand and my political statements across my chest, I was dead calm. There was not a nerve in my being. Maybe there should have been. The mere fact I was so calm before such adversity was a gold medal to my inner child.

It was a liberating feeling to finally allow myself to put competition behind me

. Winning myself was an expectation I had set in my own mental and physical training. I did not prepare to lose. This meant obsessing over my impending bout. Preparing for it as if it were my final moments. While I have felt accomplishment in victory and in defeat, I have only felt fulfillment watching someone I train win. That's always been my prize.

It was an honor to share the cage with Mr Ortega and his people. Huge thanks to Brent and Beau for spending a week out in LA and my beautiful wife CoJo who put up with my caveman bullshit and continues to do so whilst documenting our lives in art. How I deserve this life and the people in it I could not explain.

I have because of changes in diet, advancements in training and improvements considered the idea of fighting again. Each time for about one second. My sights now seem so much higher. The boy that did not believe became the man who did achieve. With this perspective I do not think anything is possible. I know it is.

If I am being transparent I allow myself one small point of competitive pride. I do not think anyone ever enjoyed competing against me : )"
 
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