reason why UFC is reluctant to concede to Conor

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People say that UFC is looking at the long term profit as opposed to short term profit, and they are correct on that, but it's actually a little more extreme than that if you think about it.

Conor is really only good for just this one last fight with Diaz- he isn't worth much after that.

Before this whole debacle, the UFC is already trying to buy time for Conor, by making aldo fight frankie, because if he goes down and loses immediately again, that's a back to back losses to two different fighters when you're hailed by the UFC as the best pound for pound fighter.

Conor has never been a complete fighter- he is a great striker, and that's it. Great striking + great mouth to be able to get under his opponent's skins and make them more emotional, more reckless in a fight. Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying he is completely a fraud, without his striking and his confidence, and actually capitalizing off of his emotional opponents in a fight, he still wouldn't be who he is today. But in the long term, he just isn't a complete fighter who can hold a belt for 9-10 years. that's a fact.

Now, after his loss with diaz, the ufc can't put him back down to his own division, because there's frankie, there's aldo.... and they've seen conor fall from grace- conor's trash talk is no longer as effective as before, and aldo vs conor would likely go very differently now. And let's not forget Frankie Edgar who poses a huge threat to Conor.

So what if conor loses to diaz again? his stock drops
what if conor goes back down to his weight and loses to frankie, loses to aldo?

The ufc can no longer propel him any further, because he is already at the top, they can no longer prevent him from having to fight the best in the world, or those that possess skills to beat him. That's a big problem.

So for the UFC, why concede to conor, and perhaps reaps the problems that will come from every fighter that wants to do waht conor is doing by threatening the ufc by pulling off a card and demanding more money? when conor is really just a hyped job who is worth one more fight before he is completely exposed? the ufc already knows this, you don't think the ufc had a hard time trying to figure out the RIGHT opponent for conor after the first diaz loss?

That's why the ufc is not willing, because they know conor is only good for 1-2 more fights.

Don't get me wrong, i hate the ufc as much as you all, and it's ufc's fault for their practice of hyping up a fighter and putting all their eggs in one basket, but what we as fans want, is see a fighter who actually deserve it do this- not some hype job..... that's like having to choose between the lesser evil of the two.
 
Don't get me wrong, i hate the ufc as much as you all

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it's kinda funny that @nyquil makes opening posts so long you fall asleep reading them, no?
 
i didnt read only because it was a little to long. ADVICE TO TS: When I make threads I purposely try to get to the point within the first paragraph or you will lose half of the Sherdog audience
 
Cloner is the flavor of the month........UFC is the long term meal.........
 
The ufc is protecting conor from himself. They don't want this fight to happen.
 
it's kinda funny that @nyquil makes opening posts so long you fall asleep reading them, no?

He's the nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, wake up half way through a post, not knowing how the fuck you got there medicine.
 
Companies dont make money by giving the employees the power to dictate their own worth..........................


is pretty simple
 
I bet the first person who thought he should get weekends off wasn't popular with his employer. Same thing with the guy who thought people should get time and a half for overtime.

Conor is saying he should be paid for excessive media engagements. If the UFC sets a precedent, everyone will want to be paid for it. The more Conor uses his celebrity to shine a light on the UFCs shady practices, the less legitimate they seem. When real sports reporters hear that an organization wants their athletes to forego training to do press, it sounds crazy. Every legitimate sports organization coordinates press and media around their athletes training and practice. They don't tell their athletes to coordinate their training around media engagements.
 
People say that UFC is looking at the long term profit as opposed to short term profit, and they are correct on that, but it's actually a little more extreme than that if you think about it.

Conor is really only good for just this one last fight with Diaz- he isn't worth much after that.

Before this whole debacle, the UFC is already trying to buy time for Conor, by making aldo fight frankie, because if he goes down and loses immediately again, that's a back to back losses to two different fighters when you're hailed by the UFC as the best pound for pound fighter.

Conor has never been a complete fighter- he is a great striker, and that's it. Great striking + great mouth to be able to get under his opponent's skins and make them more emotional, more reckless in a fight. Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying he is completely a fraud, without his striking and his confidence, and actually capitalizing off of his emotional opponents in a fight, he still wouldn't be who he is today. But in the long term, he just isn't a complete fighter who can hold a belt for 9-10 years. that's a fact.

Now, after his loss with diaz, the ufc can't put him back down to his own division, because there's frankie, there's aldo.... and they've seen conor fall from grace- conor's trash talk is no longer as effective as before, and aldo vs conor would likely go very differently now. And let's not forget Frankie Edgar who poses a huge threat to Conor.

So what if conor loses to diaz again? his stock drops
what if conor goes back down to his weight and loses to frankie, loses to aldo?

The ufc can no longer propel him any further, because he is already at the top, they can no longer prevent him from having to fight the best in the world, or those that possess skills to beat him. That's a big problem.

So for the UFC, why concede to conor, and perhaps reaps the problems that will come from every fighter that wants to do waht conor is doing by threatening the ufc by pulling off a card and demanding more money? when conor is really just a hyped job who is worth one more fight before he is completely exposed? the ufc already knows this, you don't think the ufc had a hard time trying to figure out the RIGHT opponent for conor after the first diaz loss?

That's why the ufc is not willing, because they know conor is only good for 1-2 more fights.

Don't get me wrong, i hate the ufc as much as you all, and it's ufc's fault for their practice of hyping up a fighter and putting all their eggs in one basket, but what we as fans want, is see a fighter who actually deserve it do this- not some hype job..... that's like having to choose between the lesser evil of the two.
All eggs in one basket , hype up one fighter blah de blah be blah .

There was a very famous UK boxing promoter called Mickey Duff who famously said ' being a boxing promoter is like being a greengrocer and the boxers are the cabbages'

The UFC was here long before Conor McGregor and will be long time after , fighters come and go . A good fight promoter (Dana White) hypes a fighter and fills that basket with eggs , until the basket drops and the eggs smash , because he knows another fighter is round the corner.

The UFC haven't protected McGregor from anybody , White wanted him to defend the FW belt in his next bout , however McGregor asked for the rematch against Diaz . The UFC said "Ok" to the Diaz rematch ,the UFC wanted the fight at 155 , Conor insisted on 170 they again say OK.


His choices were the above after the Diaz loss ,he is the champion at FW so has to fight his top contender ( Aldo or Frankie) a dangerous fight . Alternately he rematches Diaz , a fighter who beat him in the first fight and 99.9% of the known world seemingly thinks the result of the second fight will be the same .

Just take what happened for what it is , McGregor refused to do the press tour and the UFC pulled him from the Diaz rematch . Just like they would for any employee, just like they did when Nick Diaz refused to promote his fight with GSP.

Unless your suggesting that Also and Edgar will now fight for the FW belt which the winner will defend . While Conor defends the newly minted 'McGregor Belt ' in the 'McGregor divison ' against Diego Brandao and Marcus Brimage and the tough fella from the pub ?

Your theory is just cobblers ,if and when the UFC sort out their differences with McGregor , his options will be the just as difficult . He fights the Aldo/Edgar winner at FW , the rematch with Diaz is back on or he drops the FW belt and moves up to the murderers row in the lightweight division .
 
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I bet the first person who thought he should get weekends off wasn't popular with his employer. Same thing with the guy who thought people should get time and a half for overtime.

Conor is saying he should be paid for excessive media engagements. If the UFC sets a precedent, everyone will want to be paid for it. The more Conor uses his celebrity to shine a light on the UFCs shady practices, the less legitimate they seem. When real sports reporters hear that an organization wants their athletes to forego training to do press, it sounds crazy. Every legitimate sports organization coordinates press and media around their athletes training and practice. They don't tell their athletes to coordinate their training around media engagements.

they all make them attend though. Conor doesn't have to be in..wherever the fuck he is with Team Mjolnir. (boss name by the way) He should be training with a team that gives him a chance of winning.
 
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