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And Nate Diaz had a much better first round then people are giving him credit for. It really did look worse than it was for him. The first time I was watching too, I was like yeah Nate's getting smashed. But I think when we think a certain fighter is going to win, we start only focusing on what he is landing and get biased.

But after rewatching Nate landed some very good shots of his own. They were more subtle, jabs to the body and head. Yes Nate was more bloodied up so it looked like he took alot of damage. But he was never rocked or wobbled. Where as in the second round Nate clearly hurt and rocked Conor.

Fight metric says in the first round they both landed 37% of their strikes. Conor 28/74 And Diaz landed 23/62. So not a huge disparity. Conor was landing those oblique kicks. But boxing/punching wise they landed very similar in the first round.

And obviously it got even better for Nate in the second round as he landed more significant strikes.

The reason I post this is because. I like many others thought Nate was getting smashed in the first. And hearing the post fight press conference Nate said he was outboxing Conor the whole fight. And I was like "no your not" But rewatch and you will see. Most of Conor's punches were blocked by Nate. He kept his hands up for most of the power shots. He was cut up more so it looked worse than it actually was.

The point I'm just trying to make. Nate's boxing looked better than I previously thought. If you watch it again, I think some of you would change your opinions too. 10/9 round for Conor. But Nate held is own very well. And we all saw what happened in the second. He only submitted him after hurting him on the feet first. With boxing. Nate is a good boxer! Not the best, but looked quite decent against the "supposed best striker in mma" as many were proclaiming. Everyone can learn from fighters who don't get hit often like Mighty Mouse and Cruz. Conor on the other hand has been tagged in a lot of his fights, relying a bit too much on his chin. It cost him here.

p.s

I always find it funny when people say, I rewatched the fight with the sound off, to not hear Joe Rogan's influence. Do you watch the fight with your ears and not your eyes? It shouldn't influence your opinion so much.
 
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I think that there was also the effect of expectations.

After Mendes, Aldo, Siver and Poirier, you expected McGregor's punches to land flush and hurt the opponents fairly quickly. So everytime he touched Diaz, you thought it might be it. Add to that Nate's scar tissue and some people thought it was a 10-8.
 
Yep, 10-9 for Conor. Nate was winning the second handily well before it hit the ground.

If it was a straight standup fight, nate was sweeping the rest of it, unless it was stopped due to the cut on his eye.
 
First round Conor landed the harder shots, but Nate did OK. Many would have folded.
Second round Nate started landing 1-2 combinations at will.
 
I gave Nate the first when I watched it, I just rewatched it and gave him the first again. Nate landed more, Conor landed stronger punches. Definitely a very close round.
 
Well I was completely focused on Nate and he definitely got smashed the fuck up in the first. Conor landed numerous home run power shots, Nate's head was being smashed and jerked in every direction. It looked like he was there to get BTFO and collect a paycheck.
 
Are you having a laugh?
it may not look like it but Nate's punches were the reason Conor 'gassed'. I'm not having a laugh no. Although I'm the one person on sherdog who thinks Cormier beat Jones the first fight, so you can take that into account
 
But Conor fans said he was dominating and would have won if __________________ (insert excuse here)
 
And Nate Diaz had a much better first round then people are giving him credit for. It really did look worse than it was for him. The first time I was watching too, I was like yeah Nate's getting smashed. But I think when we think a certain fighter is going to win, we start only focusing on what he is landing and get biased.

But after rewatching Nate landed some very good shots of his own. They were more subtle, jabs to the body and head. Yes Nate was more bloodied up so it looked like he took alot of damage. But he was never rocked or wobbled. Where as in the second round Nate clearly hurt and rocked Conor.

Fight metric says in the first round they both landed 37% of their strikes. Conor 28/74 And Diaz landed 23/62. So not a huge disparity. Conor was landing those oblique kicks. But boxing/punching wise they landed very similar in the first round.

And obviously it got even better for Nate in the second round as he landed more significant strikes.

The reason I post this is because. I like many others thought Nate was getting smashed in the first. And hearing the post fight press conference Nate said he was outboxing Conor the whole fight. And I was like "no your not" But rewatch and you will see. Most of Conor's punches were blocked by Nate. He kept his hands up for most of the power shots. He was cut up more so it looked worse than it actually was.

The point I'm just trying to make. Nate's boxing looked better than I previously thought. If you watch it again, I think some of you would change your opinions too. 10/9 round for Conor. But Nate held is own very well. And we all saw what happened in the second. He only submitted him after hurting him on the feet first. With boxing. Nate is a good boxer! Not the best, but looked quite decent against the "supposed best striker in mma" as many were proclaiming. Everyone can learn from fighters who don't get hit often like Mighty Mouse and Cruz. Conor on the other hand has been tagged in a lot of his fights, relying a bit too much on his chin. It cost him here.

p.s

I always find it funny when people say, I rewatched the fight with the sound off, to not hear Joe Rogan's influence. Do you watch the fight with your ears and not your eyes? It shouldn't influence your opinion so much.

I found your post most informative. I've not been able to see any replays other than the stuff on the post fight show. But, that's just bits and pieces. Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to seeing it again myself... to I'm sure confirm your observations.
 
Well I was completely focused on Nate and he definitely got smashed the fuck up in the first. Conor landed numerous home run power shots, Nate's head was being smashed and jerked in every direction. It looked like he was there to get BTFO and collect a paycheck.
You must have been watching a different fight. Nate took the harder shots, but he was landing and defending a lot of Conor's attempts.
 
I think that there was also the effect of expectations.

After Mendes, Aldo, Siver and Poirier, you expected McGregor's punches to land flush and hurt the opponents fairly quickly. So everytime he touched Diaz, you thought it might be it. Add to that Nate's scar tissue and some people thought it was a 10-8.

I can't even comprehend how anyone had that a 10-8 under any circumstance. That is not even close to what a 10-8 round looks like.
 
I think the cosmetic damage altered people's perceptions. I actually had Nate winning the first.
 
Even striking, Nate scores a takedown and Conor grabs the cage... 10-9 Nate. At like 3:00 in R1 Nate lands on Conor and fucking smiles at him and I knew I had won my parlay at that moment.
 
Connie was putting everything into those punches. Just proves he really doesnt hit much harder than the next guy. Connies chin is weak also, because he was fully hydrated and fuzzed out for a second after the Nate left. Connor is still a LW killing himself to make FW. The left hand is the only weapon he has ever had, and since it only hurts Lil guys, then Connie is in a bad situation. RDA would have buzzsawed thru Connie. Maybe RDA should drop to FW and take the belt just once then vacate. Wont happen because Dana has Connies sausage in his throat. Im just glad the hype train derailed. Connie fans are the most delusional.
 
You must have been watching a different fight. Nate took the harder shots, but he was landing and defending a lot of Conor's attempts.

Yeah I don't know. I know Conor hit him with a really hard uppercut at some point. I just watched it now and can't find where it was again. But it's a "dodgy" video and I think some bits are cut out. I know Nate got hit hard numerous times lol.
 
Yeah I don't know. I know Conor hit him with a really hard uppercut at some point. I just watched it now and can't find where it was again. But it's a "dodgy" video and I think some bits are cut out. I know Nate got hit hard numerous times lol.

He landed a couple two or three minutes into the first round.
 
I gave Nate the first when I watched it, I just rewatched it and gave him the first again. Nate landed more, Conor landed stronger punches. Definitely a very close round.
What??

No way. It was a clear cut 10-9 round for Conor
 
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