RDA was the first lineal MMA LW champ and Khabib was the last

[Beherit]

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wtf is that ?

 

[kflo]

Credit for the effort and the interesting conclusion.

That said, it’s an accomplishment even RDA probably never knew he did......

 

[kellier]

Why are there 3 UFC & WEC belts?

When people vacate or are stripped, they haven't lost.

 

[kellier]

Very interesting read. The research has my approval for what that's worth

 

[ALAN PARTRIDGE]

So you're saying there was voter fraud??

 

[bleeder]

Pretty cool actually. Will be relevant to remember this when the UFC eventually dies.

 

[Qays Stetkevich]

In this thread, I'm hopefully gonna demonstrate that RDA was the first MMA champ to actually hold all LW titles from all major organisations (UFC (all three times), WEC (all three times) , Strikeforce, Bellator and Pride).

Below are lists of how the belts from each organisation would have moved based on the fighters career. In the case of champions who leave organisations as the belt holder, their next defeat at lightweight will signify the belt being moved on i.e. Eddie Alvarez left Bellator as its lw champ but then lost to cerrone so by that regard, Cerrone has the theoretical Bellator LW belt.

Note arrows like this --> indicate the theoretical movement of belts between fighters whereas arrows like this -> indicate the physical belt moving from fighter to fighter.

1st UFC (Pulver):
Pulver --> Ludwig --> Tyson Griffin (Duanes loss to BJ doesn't count since it was at WW) --> Frankie --> Maynard --> Frankie --> Bendo --> Pettis --> RDA.

2nd UFC (Sherk):
Sherk --> BJ --> Frankie --> Bendo --> Pettis --> RDA.

3rd UFC (BJ):
BJ -> Frankie -> Bendo -> Pettis -> RDA.

1st WEC (Gilbert):
Gilbert --> Mitsuhiro Ishida --> Caol Uno --> Aoki --> Hansen --> Aoki --> Gilbert --> Bendo --> Pettis --> RDA.

2nd WEC (Ruediger):
Ruediger (TUF 5 failure) -> Franca --> Sherk --> BJ --> Frankie --> Bendo --> Pettis --> RDA.

3rd WEC (Showtime):
McCullogh -> Varner -> Bendo -> Pettis --> Guida --> Bendo --> Pettis --> RDA.

Strikeforce:
Guida -> Gilbert -> Thomson -> Gilbert --> Bendo --> Pettis --> RDA.

Bellator:
Alvarez -> Chandler -> Alvarez --> Cerrone -> RDA.

Pride:
Gomi --> Sergey Golyaev --> Eiji Mitsuoka --> Kazunori Yakota --> Tatsuya Kawajiri --> Aoki (unified with Dream Belt) --> Alvarez --> Cerrone --> RDA.

So when RDA beat Cerrone on the 19th December 2015, he effectively unified the Belts from all major MMA organisations and became the first Lineal LW Champ. It also means that there were only 4 lineal MMA champs in LW history:

RDA

who lost to Alvarez

who lost to Conor

who lost to Khabib

.

With Khabibs retirement at UFC 254, he not only retired undisputed undefeated lightweight GOAT, but also officially retires the lineal LW lineage. Insane to think about.

Edit: Slight addition: IF you consider that the UFC stripped Conor and Khabib won a UFC belt at UFC 223, It would mean that Khabib is the only fighter in history to literally hold a version of every single major organisation LW belt (all 4 UFC belts, 3 WEC belts, Strikeforce, Bellator, Pride and DREAM) when he beat Conor at UFC 229. Undoubtedly, the LW GOAt.

Haha, good work. I would never have thought about that. Out of curiosity, how/why'd you come up with this? Were you suspicious, or just typed this all off the top of your head?

 

[Sure Dawg]

In this thread, I'm hopefully gonna demonstrate that RDA was the first MMA champ to actually hold all LW titles from all major organisations (UFC (all three times), WEC (all three times) , Strikeforce, Bellator and Pride).

Below are lists of how the belts from each organisation would have moved based on the fighters career. In the case of champions who leave organisations as the belt holder, their next defeat at lightweight will signify the belt being moved on i.e. Eddie Alvarez left Bellator as its lw champ but then lost to cerrone so by that regard, Cerrone has the theoretical Bellator LW belt.

Note arrows like this --> indicate the theoretical movement of belts between fighters whereas arrows like this -> indicate the physical belt moving from fighter to fighter.

1st UFC (Pulver):
Pulver --> Ludwig --> Tyson Griffin (Duanes loss to BJ doesn't count since it was at WW) --> Frankie --> Maynard --> Frankie --> Bendo --> Pettis --> RDA.

2nd UFC (Sherk):
Sherk --> BJ --> Frankie --> Bendo --> Pettis --> RDA.

3rd UFC (BJ):
BJ -> Frankie -> Bendo -> Pettis -> RDA.

1st WEC (Gilbert):
Gilbert --> Mitsuhiro Ishida --> Caol Uno --> Aoki --> Hansen --> Aoki --> Gilbert --> Bendo --> Pettis --> RDA.

2nd WEC (Ruediger):
Ruediger (TUF 5 failure) -> Franca --> Sherk --> BJ --> Frankie --> Bendo --> Pettis --> RDA.

3rd WEC (Showtime):
McCullogh -> Varner -> Bendo -> Pettis --> Guida --> Bendo --> Pettis --> RDA.

Strikeforce:
Guida -> Gilbert -> Thomson -> Gilbert --> Bendo --> Pettis --> RDA.

Bellator:
Alvarez -> Chandler -> Alvarez --> Cerrone -> RDA.

Pride:
Gomi --> Sergey Golyaev --> Eiji Mitsuoka --> Kazunori Yakota --> Tatsuya Kawajiri --> Aoki (unified with Dream Belt) --> Alvarez --> Cerrone --> RDA.

So when RDA beat Cerrone on the 19th December 2015, he effectively unified the Belts from all major MMA organisations and became the first Lineal LW Champ. It also means that there were only 4 lineal MMA champs in LW history:

RDA

who lost to Alvarez

who lost to Conor

who lost to Khabib

.

With Khabibs retirement at UFC 254, he not only retired undisputed undefeated lightweight GOAT, but also officially retires the lineal LW lineage. Insane to think about.

Edit: Slight addition: IF you consider that the UFC stripped Conor and Khabib won a UFC belt at UFC 223, It would mean that Khabib is the only fighter in history to literally hold a version of every single major organisation LW belt (all 4 UFC belts, 3 WEC belts, Strikeforce, Bellator, Pride and DREAM) when he beat Conor at UFC 229. Undoubtedly, the LW GOAt.

 

[Ahmed Masood]

Haha, good work. I would never have thought about that. Out of curiosity, how/why'd you come up with this? Were you suspicious, or just typed this all off the top of your head?

Thank you man. The inspiration was two fold:
a) Ive read various threads of Sherbros claiming Eddie is the GOAT LW over Khabib and BJ given that he has beaten a champion from every single organisation (Aoki from ONe, Chandler from Bellator, gilbert from Strikeforce etc.) This made me consider, given that loads of those champs had left organisations therefore vacated their belts, how do you trace the lineal championship i.e. the definitive best fighter in that weight class in the world.

b) this vid: