Opinion Radical left vs Radical Right poll

Which do you think is worse for American society as a whole?

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luckyshot said:
Thanks.

The truth is, they are both bad, and so is centrism.

The culture war is there to keep us distracted from the corporate coup that has taken place since the 1980's.

The media is not liberal; it is .

That being said, the Left at least has some elements that are trying to bring attention to the important issues (need for UHC, climate action, green investment, etc.).The right does not.
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No worries, I thought about your original post a lot, it was very good. I am a centrist. Meaning not far left for right, and I want to take the best ideas from the left and right as well as discard the worst ideas from both sides. Why is a centrist bad? I'd say 70% of the population are centrist, the noise we hear is from the far sides.

I believe in a free market.

What do you mean the media is corporatist?

I agree with many of your ideas, but some I can't understand.
 
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matheuss92 said:
Myself, honestly, cant vote in one of those. I have a very centristic mind. I dont believe in "radical" changes. In my opinion, changes are better employed step by step. Radical changes usually go like the french revolution. A fucking mess. My centristic mind really forbids me of chosing one over another. I dont have a "team". Im an economist, therefore I have an "opinion" in what progress really means. No radical wing can match what I see as progress
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I agree with the incremental approach usually too. However, I don't think there's a problem with radical proposals if it could start at a state level first and then eventually gain a significant amount of majority support. There's downsides to quick changes but there are also large upsides in constantly looking for places to improve and work towards implementing it.
 
Kandyland said:
Radical left easily strictly because they have more influence. The left controls everything including our movies, music, schools and worst of all our mainstream news.
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Agree, currently they have the institutions and big tech on their side. Also they seek more control peoples lives. the radical right seems to want to be left alone.
 
The Left is way worse.

They hate America, they burn flags, burn down cities and think the national anthem is racist.

The Left also wants to shut down businesses and ban Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner
 
mmafan2000 said:
Well, to be fair anytime anyone tells you what you can and can't say sounds pretty fascist to me. Deplatformiong someone because you "miss gender them"? Seriously?!
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Who has been seriously deplatformed for mis* gendering someone? Also your priorities are seriously out of whack if you think this example is even remotely comparable to neo-nazis of today's radical right wing, who shoot up mosques and call of ethno-state solutions
 
mmafan2000 said:
This thread was inspired by @luckyshot who wanted to know which was worse for society, Trumpers or woke-left. I kept thinking about it and would like to see your opinion manifested as a poll.

Which do you think is worse for American society as a whole:

Radical left: antifa, BLM, woke justice warriors, toxic cancel culture, de-fund the police, quota based not merit-bases social systems, anti-free speech, sanctuary cities, illegal migrants for future votes, socialism, bigger government, higher taxes for the rich, legalize all drugs and gay marriage, looting and rioting, victim Olympics, fostering anti-white racism, public safe spaces, separation of church and state, decrease military spending, reparations, anti-NRA, anti-white education campaigns, genre neutral bathrooms, atheism, force 8 year old to have sex changes, men are evil, black supremacists, allow people in jail to vote, etc

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Radical right: ultra-religious, anti-abortion women's choice, rugged capitalism, no universal health care, no taxes for the rich and large corporations, trickle down economics and if you don't get any money it's your problem, boost military and support Israel even if it's bad for the US, no separations of church and state, pro-NRA, anti democracy, no reparations of any kind, all protests should be handled swiftly by the army, wars are good for the economy, lobby groups are a part of free speech, close the border, stop sanctuary cities, DACA is a sham and deport the illegals once and for all, all drugs should remain illegal, white supremacists, smaller government, let AIPAC control congress, Regan was the greatest president since Jesus, etc
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"trickle down economics" <-- has never ever ever been a thing...you might want to research this
 
mmafan2000 said:
This thread was inspired by @luckyshot who wanted to know which was worse for society, Trumpers or woke-left. I kept thinking about it and would like to see your opinion manifested as a poll.

Which do you think is worse for American society as a whole:

Radical left: antifa, BLM, woke justice warriors, toxic cancel culture, de-fund the police, quota based not merit-bases social systems, anti-free speech, sanctuary cities, illegal migrants for future votes, socialism, bigger government, higher taxes for the rich, legalize all drugs and gay marriage, looting and rioting, victim Olympics, fostering anti-white racism, public safe spaces, separation of church and state, decrease military spending, reparations, anti-NRA, anti-white education campaigns, genre neutral bathrooms, atheism, force 8 year old to have sex changes, men are evil, black supremacists, allow people in jail to vote, etc

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Radical right: ultra-religious, anti-abortion women's choice, rugged capitalism, no universal health care, no taxes for the rich and large corporations, trickle down economics and if you don't get any money it's your problem, boost military and support Israel even if it's bad for the US, no separations of church and state, pro-NRA, anti democracy, no reparations of any kind, all protests should be handled swiftly by the army, wars are good for the economy, lobby groups are a part of free speech, close the border, stop sanctuary cities, DACA is a sham and deport the illegals once and for all, all drugs should remain illegal, white supremacists, smaller government, let AIPAC control congress, Regan was the greatest president since Jesus, etc
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you forgot to mention that around 50% of trump supporters believe there are reptilian demons running the world and that dems eat babies.

might want to add this tiny little detail to the list bud. i think it is very relevant.
 
Rocco Siffredi said:
"trickle down economics" <-- has never ever ever been a thing...you might want to research this
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My friends who are leftist tell me this all time: "Right wing climate change denial and trickle down economics are worse than anything from the left". I ask them why trickle down economics? Then they say (i am paraphrasing because I don't know anything about economics) they retort: well...(in a high pitched voice)...well...it's Raganomics you see...supply side trickle down doesn't get down to the people that need it, it's well known. Don't be a dumb ass." ofcourse I googled it and can't understand anything like when I googled libetarianism. Maybe I am a dumbass. lol Would you mind explaining trickle down economics for me and why you think it works?
 
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Lead said:
I agree with the incremental approach usually too. However, I don't think there's a problem with radical proposals if it could start at a state level first and then eventually gain a significant amount of majority support. There's downsides to quick changes but there are also large upsides in constantly looking for places to improve and work towards implementing it.
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I dont desagree enterily but I do think you have in your mind the american way of government: Where states are heavily independent and pretty much some of their law are above the federal law (cannabis). If im correct, there isnt much countries like this in the world. FFS, Montreal couldnt keep speaking french. I honestly feel the majority has adopted english by now. The Federal system is just too much bigger than in a state level. The majority of the countries are a big federation rulling over small states. There is no easy radical proposal that couldnt create a radical reaction of the people being ruled. Both sides have to reach an agreement. Thats fucking John Nash. There cant be a winner and a loser and that is the best solution to a problem. Radical changes do make some people suffer more than other. The best solution will ever be the one both parts believe they win. A win-win solution.
 
mmafan2000 said:
My friends who are leftist tell me this all time: "Right wing climate change denial and trickle down economics are worse than anything from the left". I ask them why trickle down economics? Then they say (i am paraphrasing because I don't know anything about economics) they retort: well...(in a high pitched voice)...well...it's Raganomics you see...supply side trickle down doesn't get down to the people that need it, it's well known. Don't be a dumb ass." ofcourse I googled it and can't understand anything like when I googled libetarianism. Maybe I am a dumbass. lol Would you mind explaining trickle down economics for me and why you think it works?
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The Left are all globalists. They want to control and tax everyone more and that's why they push the man made climate change hoax. They have no proof that man changes the climate. The climates change all by themselves.
 
mmafan2000 said:
No worries, I thought about your original post a lot, it was very good. I am a centrist. Meaning not far left for right, and I want to take the best ideas from the left and right as well as discard the worst ideas from both sides. Why is a centrist bad? I'd say 70% of the population are centrist, the noise we hear is from the far sides.

I believe in a free market.

What do you mean the media is corporatist?

I agree with many of your ideas, but some I can't understand.
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But trust me also, you dont have to be a radical left or a radical right. You can be more progressive or more conservative without being radical. I do have a problem to understand the notion of right and left, but when I try to apply to economy, I understand a more liberal way to see things, which I will call right, and a more keynesian way of seeing it, sounding more left. And both have their value. Thats why I like to study both. Im myself am pretty progressive in my ideas of life, but not so progressive in a keynesian way in terms of economy. You can just be both, dont fall for that bullshit of calling you right or left or center. I do that because its the social rule, if you dont, you sound lunatic. But its just a way to categorize people. Fuck that.
 
skold said:
Who has been seriously deplatformed for mis* gendering someone? Also your priorities are seriously out of whack if you think this example is even remotely comparable to neo-nazis of today's radical right wing, who shoot up mosques and call of ethno-state solutions
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You are right, shooting is worse. Now...Jordan Peterson got famous for simply refusing to use those pronouns. Why should someone get famous just form that. Because it's mainstream and being pushed on everyone.

I submit to you that these crazies that shoot people are less than .00000001% of society. The radical left ideology, however, is coming mainstream with gender neutral toilets and aggressive cancel culture. Watch bill mahers latest new rules how democrats are getting very aggressive and hurting their own people. The danger isn't as overt as shooting, but did you see how the media ignored billions in damages from looting and arson? Assaulting people eating their food outdoors, etc. I recently am hearing ethno state solutions from BLM, replacing whites in corporations and neighborhoods with blacks. It goes both ways man. Biased people can only see their side as valid and all other sides as invalid. As a centrist I have always spoken out against the far right and been worried about the crazies that shoot people. Now we have to worry about the radical left too.
 
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whippersnapper said:
The Left are all globalists. They want to control and tax everyone more and that's why they push the man made climate change hoax. They have no proof that man changes the climate. The climates change all by themselves.
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not sure if troll or not
 
Both are bad equally, cause in the end both of them are.slaves to the government and want the same thing ( control over society )
 
mmafan2000 said:
I come from a cold climate, my dream is to move to Florida, the sunshine state. I am an east-cost guy. I am disappointed to see Florida cities aren't higher up in the happiness area. I visited there many times, super nice people.
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I’m an east coast guy as well. Ain’t shit happy around here. That’s probably why heroin has destroyed most of the communities around me. Spent a month with family in a poor suburb near Knoxville, Tennessee as a kid and they weren’t very happy around there either. I think poverty is obviously the biggest contributor.
 
Both are terrible, obviously.
The Dems are currently slightly left of Centre, and Trump is pretty far right, so in the USA it's not even a debate. The far right is literally trying to tear the country apart before our eyes.

The question is what would these cunts do if there actually was a far left party in the US?
 
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