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Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by phenomfan1529, Jul 20, 2005.

  1. phenomfan1529 Brown Belt

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    I just bought Critical Countdown 2004. I was wathcing the Randleman/Fedor fight, & I wanted to know if the sub the Fedor used to win was a kimura or a keylock. Bas called a kimura & I know sherdog fight finder it says he won by kimura but to me it looked like a keylock. Did anybody else see this? What was it, a kimura or keylock?
     
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    Sorry if this is a stupid question. Just really want to know
     
  3. colinm Brown Belt

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    definitely a kimura, which is just a keylock going the other way.
     
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    So let me get this straight - a keylock and an americana are the same thing?

    cause I thought it was a Kimura and a keylock that were the same.
     
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    The keylock and the americana are the same. Some people use the term keylock to describe a slightly different submission (think close to a bicep slicer with the arms but not quite). However, the most common usage means exactly the same as the americana.

    The other terms I hear for kimura are figure-four shoulder lock, hammerlock, and paintbrush. It's also called ude-garami in judo, but the americana is also called exactly the same thing so it is confusing.
     
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    It was defo a kimura. Here, I took a screenshot.

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    nice job JOB
     
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    The terms figure-four shoulder lock and paintbrush are also used to describe the americana.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback guys
     

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