Question for Ronda haters and others

[squatchi26]

I don't hate Ronda, I hate when the ufc try's to push a fighter down our throat that said if cyborg loses I don't want to see the fight. in fact that's the only wmma fight that I want to see, ever!

 

[BigMuffler]

Ronda hater, checking in.

Stop suggesting that I'm demanding a bunch of silly and unreasonable things, and maybe we can have a conversation about what I think, and what I'd like to see.

Which other UFC champion would you demand go up in weight to meet the demands of a champion of a smaller organization in a much shallower division who has not had a decent win in 2 years?

Also in that case I can pass on your input.

 

[gspieler]

The thing Tha is frustrating is that Rhonda will say that she can beat up Cain but won't take a fight 10 pounds heavier. I have no problem with her not wanting to move up to fight someone heavier but when you claim you can beat hw men you should have to do something to back it up

I'm sure she would beat Cyborg under the right circumstances.

 

[The ScorpioN]

I don't stay up to date, but after some bing eating its easy to put on a lot of weight in a night when you train a lot. She looks less muscular from pictures I've seen.

What kind of binge eating you gotta do to go from 165 to 175? She obviously gained weight, as shown by her walk around weight pictures. She either enlisted Nick Diaz's supplements and went to town in a buffet, or much more plausible, someone like AS' strength and conditioning coach's vitamins.

 

[BigMuffler]

I'm not demanding anything. I just want to see the best fight at their bests, regardless of weight, a la Hendo, Fedor, BJ, etc. Not to point fingers, but if Ronda is truly that far ahead of the curve, what issue would she have taking on just some decent fighter a weight class above her who's success is largely attributable to the horsemeat diet?

A lot of people claim they're not 'demanding' anything, but if they're going to bash on Ronda and call her a coward etc. all the time if she doesn't go out of her way to meet Cyborg's demands - not sure if you do it, I'm just saying - then what is it if not 'demanding'?

 

[antithetic]

What kind of binge eating you gotta do to go from 165 to 175? She obviously gained weight, as shown by her walk around weight pictures. She either enlisted Nick Diaz's supplements and went to town in a buffet, or much more plausible, someone like AS' strength and conditioning coach's vitamins.

You really think she's on the Juice right now? I personally doubt it.

You train hard twice a day just to stay around your weight when you're lean for a female eating clean, then next day binge eat and see what weight youre at.

I could put on 5/7 lbs in one day with water retention of high sodium/binge eating if ive been eating clean.

 

[The ScorpioN]

You really think she's on the Juice right now? I personally doubt it.

You train hard twice a day just to stay around your weight when you're lean for a female eating clean, then next day binge eat and see what weight youre at.

I could put on 5/7 lbs in one day with water retention of high sodium/binge eating if ive been eating clean.

If I said what I thought, I'd be either dubbed or banned. Just by looking at her you can tell the woman is far from a meat/potatoes and hard work type of woman. Not to say she doesn't work hard.

She's 5'8, let's say 170 not 175 to account for your binge eating theory, looks like a female bodybuilder in an extremely cardio intensive sport. Do I really need to put 2 + 2 together for you? It doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

 

[antithetic]

If I said what I thought, I'd be either dubbed or banned. Just by looking at her you can tell the woman is far from a meat/potatoes and hard work type of woman.

She's 5'8, let's say 170 not 175 to account for your binge eating theory, looks like a female bodybuilder in an extremely cardio intensive sport. Do I really need to put 2 + 2 together for you? It doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

She used to look like a freak, like I said from what I've seen over the past few years she looks like shes lost muscle mass.

Sorry but to me she doesnt look as big as she used to.

God, and who gives a fuck anyways. She hasnt tested positive for a long time. If every fighter stopped themselves from fighting because they assumed the other person was on roids there would be no fights.

 

[PAPERCLIP30]

Yes if you're demanding that Ronda do something you would not demand of any other champ.

Which other UFC champion would you demand go up in weight to meet the demands of a champion of a smaller organization in a much shallower division who has not had a decent win in 2 years?

If any champion was beating 80% of his competition I would most certainly demand that he moves up / takes bigger fights.


Why should she go up? Because no other fight is interesting.

 

[The ScorpioN]

She used to look like a freak, like I said from what I've seen over the past few years she looks like shes lost muscle mass.

Sorry but to me she doesnt look as big as she used to.


God, and who gives a fuck anyways. She hasnt tested positive for a long time. If every fighter stopped themselves from fighting because they assumed the other person was on roids there would be no fights.

She looks the same to me, not sure what you're seeing. She's as manly as ever. I've provided a picture with her weight on it, obviously she's only been gaining mass.

There's a big difference between a man and a woman roiding. And so what if she hasn't tested positive? Was there any doubt Lombard was clean when he hasn't tested positive? Overeem? Or you think people who are using always get caught?

 

[teamfox223]

She talks too much crap, her brain has no filter she just spills what ever she's thinking.
Like she can beat up every men in UFC. Well she didn't really say that but if she said she can beat Cain the heavy weight champ by implication she can beat every other men in the UFC.

As for the Cyborg fight don't care about that anymore. Ronda wants to retire undefeated so that fight is not going to happen. Ronda might take the fight as a retirement fight for a final big payday.

 

[The ScorpioN]

If any champion was beating 80% of his competition I would most certainly demand that he moves up / takes bigger fights.


Why should she go up? Because no other fight is interesting.

Ronda should imitate Anderson then and move up. Fight Tweet and Dufresne to reassure her p4p status.

 

[BigMuffler]

If any champion was beating 80% of his competition I would most certainly demand that he moves up / takes bigger fights.

To the same degree people are demanding Ronda do it, and against a champ of a smaller organization that doesn't even have a better resume compared to challengers in her own division?

Mighty Mouse, Aldo, and Jones have been dominating their divisions for a while, people aren't DEMANDING they go up as strongly as Ronda haters do. Nobody is calling MM a coward for not seeking out TJ or Aldo a coward for not seeking out Pettis/RDA. Jones well there is some of that but he is treated similarly to R3.

 

[georgejjr]

The thing Tha is frustrating is that Rhonda will say that she can beat up Cain but won't take a fight 10 pounds heavier. I have no problem with her not wanting to move up to fight someone heavier but when you claim you can beat hw men you should have to do something to back it up

Wouldn't it make more sense then to demand that she fight 135 pound men, given that the complaint is that she claims she can beat men?

But she's just taking the psychological approach of never admitting you can lose (she did randori - judo sparring - with elite international men her size in judo at training camps, and lost badly). Pro athletes do that all the time; when a 0-10 NFL team has a game with a 10-0 team, they don't go into it thinking they'll probably lose, they'll try to convince themselves they're going to win. Its a head game.

Rousey knows the odds of her beating an elite 135 pound man are very low. But anything can happen (study quantum mechanics if you doubt this) if you're talking about non-zero probability (like a one in a googleplex chance). Psychologically you hold out for that kind of chance rather than admit defeat.

In the case of Cyborg, she's a proven cheater. Why give her a break by going up to her weight? For that matter, in all of UFC history, Penn is the only current UFC champ who went up in weight to fight another current UFC champ (GSP). By sticking to her weight division Rousey's doing what Barao, Mighty Mouse, Aldo, Hughes, Liddell, GSP, Anderson (never fought a current LHW champ), Jones, and every other champ did - she's just following the normal custom.

If Cyborg wants the the fight at a heavier weight she should do what Rousey did before the UFC picked her up, and go full out into self-promotion. All Rousey had was an Olympic bronze medal, which is almost nothing in the US (America gets 30+ bronze medals in every Olympics, how many can you name without looking it up?). She did self-promotion to get so much media recognition that the UFC picked her up and created a division for her. No reason Cyborg can't do the same thing, instead of trying to piggy back off of Rousey's marketing work.

If Cyborg builds up the same following that Rousey created, the UFC will create a 145 pound division for her, and she won't need Rousey.

 

[UJustGotChaeld]

Ok, so anyone who wants to see Ronda, p4p best/Fedor of wmma/would beat Mayweather, fight a version of Cyborg who isn't completely dehydrated, malnourished, and likely to perform in a sub-normal fashion is a Ronda-hater?

135 Cyborg fits your description. She was training and powerlifting when she was ready to cut to 135.

You lose.

 

[Richard Fannin]

Ronda neutral here. and not a big fan of WMMA.

I want to see this fight because it's the one and only women fight that I would get excited for.
Classic grappler vs striker, both elites at their respective styles.
That would be a huge fight, and the biggest female bout since Cyborg/Carano (I guess? Again, I'm not very WMMA savvy).

That would probably be a main event that would sell very well.
Now I didn't follow that whole story very closely so I don't know who is at fault here

She claims that she could beat so many male fighters, she would fight Cain and maybe win, and many more... Dana talks about her being one of the P4P best... and I'm forgetting a bunch of them.

But she won't fight Cyborg because of a few pounds? In MMA fighters regularly have a fight outside their weigh-class. And it's not like Ronda is a LW and Cyborg a HW.
She is just ONE weight-class up.

If you are that confident in your abilities, one weight-class isn't a big deal.
For a recent example, look at what Bendo did to Brandon Thatch.

Come on, I don't want this fight to be one a sherdog top ten list of "Biggest fights that didn't happen" in a few years

Even fans who don't watch WMMA at all would tune in for this one.
And if it's a good fight, whoever wins, they could set up a $$$ TUF season Cyborg/Rousey II $$$

 

[UJustGotChaeld]

I don't stay up to date, but after some bing eating its easy to put on a lot of weight in a night when you train a lot. She looks less muscular from pictures I've seen.

That was several hours after her last fight.

 

[The Batman]

To the same degree people are demanding Ronda do it, and against a champ of a smaller organization that doesn't even have a better resume compared to challengers in her own division?

Mighty Mouse, Aldo, and Jones have been dominating their divisions for a while, people aren't DEMANDING they go up as strongly as Ronda haters do. Nobody is calling MM a coward for not seeking out TJ or Aldo a coward for not seeking out Pettis/RDA. Jones well there is some of that but he is treated similarly to R3.

Tons of people want to see them move up, you've most likely seen dozens of threads on it. Mighty Mouse already fought Cruz @ 135.

Same went for GSP and Anderson when they were in their prime/non-retired. I realize you have a raging erection for Ronda, but don't spout off bullshit to make it seem like Ronda has it so badly.

 

[BigMuffler]

Tons of people want to see them move up, you've most likely seen dozens of threads on it.

TO THE SAME DEGREE, dipshit. Mighty Mouse and Aldo don't get called 'scared' of TJ/RDA day in and day out.

Jones gets called scared and a coward a lot but I already acknowledged he gets the same kind of biased hate as R3.

 

[The Batman]

TO THE SAME DEGREE, dipshit. Mighty Mouse and Aldo don't get called 'scared' of TJ/RDA day in and day out.

Jones gets called scared and a coward a lot but I already acknowledged he gets the same kind of biased hate as R3.

Were you not here when Pettis/Aldo was in the works? Did you miss both sides being called cowards/pussies?

Every dominant champion gets mentioned moving up in weight, constantly. Your obsession is clouding your judgement and a little on the creepy side.