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I want to reiterate, I don't hate Roman because he's not an Indy darling, I fucking love Baron Corbin and he's the literal antithesis of that. I hate Roman because he has two stupid moves that make up the bulk of his moveset and he wears armor in his matches. Booking isn't on him, his promos probably aren't either, but put some effort in to your work if you're going to be the top guy.
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Reading some of last night's response is kinda baffle.
Cesaro came back. And not a lot of people were high on it. Remind me again, am I suppose to enjoy the show and "happy that someone have a job" or that I can actually like the part I like and dislike the part that's not? Seems rather inconsistent to bitch about people being assine neckbeard and then turned around to be a neckbeard, just without the title. Double standard much?
And as other people pointed out, the logic of AJ Styles lost in the WrestleMania and then get a number 1 contender spot the next night is 50-50 booking at its best. He pinned Jericho after a move that Jericho kicked out last night too. Again, consistency, where it is? People bitches about 50/50 booking but now it is ok because "muh WrestleMania moment" is over?
Also, the Usos vs The Dudleys' Table Match. Am I the only one remember that you weren't supposed to lose in a Table match if you missed your high flying move? Having them lost by that way is anti climatic.
Why the Vaudevillains debuting on Raw too, btw? Sounds a little bit off but that's probably the best foreshadowing WWE has done in years. Tag team divisions need some fresh blood and here it is, seemingly already on the way of the Superstar and Main Event.
Oh wait, gotta be happy now that someone got a spot on the main roster!
Cesaro came back. And not a lot of people were high on it. Remind me again, am I suppose to enjoy the show and "happy that someone have a job" or that I can actually like the part I like and dislike the part that's not? Seems rather inconsistent to bitch about people being assine neckbeard and then turned around to be a neckbeard, just without the title. Double standard much?
And as other people pointed out, the logic of AJ Styles lost in the WrestleMania and then get a number 1 contender spot the next night is 50-50 booking at its best. He pinned Jericho after a move that Jericho kicked out last night too. Again, consistency, where it is? People bitches about 50/50 booking but now it is ok because "muh WrestleMania moment" is over?
Also, the Usos vs The Dudleys' Table Match. Am I the only one remember that you weren't supposed to lose in a Table match if you missed your high flying move? Having them lost by that way is anti climatic.
Why the Vaudevillains debuting on Raw too, btw? Sounds a little bit off but that's probably the best foreshadowing WWE has done in years. Tag team divisions need some fresh blood and here it is, seemingly already on the way of the Superstar and Main Event.
Oh wait, gotta be happy now that someone got a spot on the main roster!
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I'm psyched to see Cesaro back, and even more happy to see him in the title picture. Even if it was for one night, it's a good sign.
Yeah, I'm still not ok with AJ taking that loss even if he does get a title shot. It wasn't the reason he got the shot and it's kind of stalling any momentum he has. Good to know Jericho is still a threat, but how many more feuds does he have left? What I'm curious about is how they are going to do AJ vs Reigns. The WWE is firmly against face vs face matches. They aren't going to get the crowd to boo AJ, certainly not against Roman. So are they forced to turn Reigns heel? There's a few ways they can play this, and honestly every way should be very interesting whether it's the right or wrong way. I think the fans are on the precipice of a revolt and the WWE has to listen soon. They could turn lemons in to lemonade and use the heat to make a great story.
The tables match was a botch, that one seemed to be cursed before it began. It probably ended up helping the debut of Enzo and Cass.
The Vaudevillains never had a chance on the main roster. Hopefully they get a cool entrance at least.
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He's coming off of shoulder surgery. I'll give him a pass.
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Still probably stronger than 90% of the roster. The guy is an animal.
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It is kinda hard to get through the logic, really. Maybe Cesaro can be pawn off to put Jericho to rest finally, and Owens can get on with his programs vs Sami. They really should make Cesaro and emphasize his freakish strength rather than tell him to cut promos and shit. Whatever happen to "minimize the negative and accentuate the positive"? It is like everyone must put through a very rigid system and there's no way to deviate from it.
Jericho should just take a permanent vacation, full stop.
AJ might be the one going to fight Roman next but like you said, it is strange situation that AJ gets the title shot but it smell like they are feeding AJ to Roman instead of elevating a talent.
But I'm sure someone will tell me off that I should just enjoy the show and be happy that someone had a job. Not the guys he hate though. Strange how that works.
By the way, why did Shane manage to run Raw right after he lost his HIAC match again? Smell like another cop out to me. That's a glaring flaw if anything.
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As heartbreaking as it is to say, I think I'm done on MMA after Cejudo vs Johnson. I haven't been able to truly enjoy a fight in years. It's getting harder and harder to be a fan of anyone. I may come back in a decade like wrestling, but it's going to take a lot of changes. On the plus side, I have pro wrestling again and it's better than it's ever been. The talent is so incredibly deep world wide, and more chances are being taken than ever, save for the world title picture in the WWE which is a drop in the bucket of the sport. It's like losing a friend and regaining a lover, no homo.
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I remember I read somewhere on here or /woo/, where someone propose an idea to repackage Cesaro as a "professional", with suit and everything. Glad to hear that someone had the same idea too.
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I'm a huge Jericho fan but I have to say there's something about him right now that just doesn't click in me. It just doesn't feel like anything is on the line in his matches.
AJ may end up winning, which would be every smarks fantasy and pretty much make this the best year anyone has ever had.
The Shane thing was terrible, and I had a feeling they would pull that. The only thing he even did was the 4 way match, I assume every other match was already going to happen. It's not even like the Authority wouldn't have done that. Vince giving Shane Raw for the night just made no sense, "I hate you and am gloating, but let me give you what you want because now I'm angry!".
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Enzo, too, being able to write his own promos. No way creative came up with "I'm gonna put that lazy eye back to work" and no way that got pre-approved.
Like over a decade and a half ago I e-mailed Low-Ki. That was still back when he had the results of literally every single match he had on his website, with his personal e-mail just right there for anyone to use, and it was pretty clear he was maintaining it himself (or had, like, "hired" a buddy). I think he's just had a match on like Metal or whatever the fuck they called their jobber show back then, with Essa Rios. And he actually responded back.
I don't mind the AJ / Jericho booking as a whole. It's been a long while since there was a major non-callup signee to the main roster, and I think they wanted him to work with a vet who's also very in-tune with non-WWE styles (no pun intended), and Jericho has a lot of cred with both casuals and hardcore fans. AJ is still figuring out this new synthesis of his old style and WWE style. And in general I think this how that feud got intertwined with the hw championship really elevates both Jericho and AJ. We know AJ is winning this feud, but I think Jericho winning at 'mania may have been the more natural route to associate this feud with the title.
I had predicted that Jericho was gonna get a title shot and AJ would screw him but the opposite works the same. Probably what we get is Chris screws AJ in the Reigns match which leads AJ ending their feud at Payback. Possibly Balor Club intervenes to help AJ win. or help Roman retain.
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The fued just feel dragged out without any special payoff, really. Dean vs Owens lasted only 3 matches and it ended on a Last Man Standing match. AJ vs Styles have the potential to last to 5 matches and the four previous match was just straight single. And also, it is not intense enough to be a bitter, blood fued. So what we have here is a very bland, long fued that to me serve no purpose outside of assimilate AJ Styles into the roster. The T-shirt was a charade, too. It was a nice twist but baiting their fan into buying useless T-shirt is a scumbag move nonetheless.
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It was me Austin!
I posted it on squared circle too.
Just an easy gimmick.
Give him suits, nice cars. Make him the bad ass that takes no shit but can go to the highest bidder at times too.
Easy can become a corporate champ going that route too.
Dude just looks the part and his in ring style supports. He won't need to talk much. Hell get him a valet like askana again but make it so she manages his bookings and what not..saying who hell fight for,what price etc
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I agree with most of this. But instead of like a gun for hire I'd just book him as like a scummy Eurotrash playboy. Suits, cars, someone dong like a modern Marlena and being his "manager", with strong implications she's like a madame and he's like an international pimp. Okay maybe not that last part but
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AJ v Jericho is simply two respected veterans who have taken different paths in their careers, fighting it out in a close and evenly matched feud. Jericho is getting older and even though I LOVED him as a kid, I haven't been able to stomach him as a face for years. As a heel though, he is brilliant and in the ring he constantly puts on technically sound and entertaining matches. AJ may be better in the ring, but Jericho has carried AJ somewhat with his charisma. I have really enjoyed the series of matches, not as a way to put AJ over but as an even feud. AJ should go over, but Jericho deserves his moment.
I didn't like the segment between them on Raw as AJ had come out and fought with Jericho, but was easily put out of the ring and that was that. I am just fine with the match however and the reason why the Styles Clash put away Jericho last night and not at Wrestlemania is simply because it either hit better or Jericho was at the worse condition or whatever. It doesn't seem like uneven booking to me.
I'm glad that Cesaro is back but I hope that he can get a series of wins after this. It would be a shame to see him come back, only to get lost in the shuffle.
John Cena was hated by 50% of the fans but the other half (kids, women) loved him. Roman Reigns on the other hand seems to be universally booed at this point. AJ will most certainly make Roman Reigns look good but WWE really need to embrace this, instead of trying to force us to love him, because there is no way that over half of the fan base are going to pick Reigns over AJ.
I didn't like the segment between them on Raw as AJ had come out and fought with Jericho, but was easily put out of the ring and that was that. I am just fine with the match however and the reason why the Styles Clash put away Jericho last night and not at Wrestlemania is simply because it either hit better or Jericho was at the worse condition or whatever. It doesn't seem like uneven booking to me.
I'm glad that Cesaro is back but I hope that he can get a series of wins after this. It would be a shame to see him come back, only to get lost in the shuffle.
John Cena was hated by 50% of the fans but the other half (kids, women) loved him. Roman Reigns on the other hand seems to be universally booed at this point. AJ will most certainly make Roman Reigns look good but WWE really need to embrace this, instead of trying to force us to love him, because there is no way that over half of the fan base are going to pick Reigns over AJ.
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