Social Public Schools Continuing to Fail...

[Scerpi]

More like 40 years of Republican policy is finally getting the results they wanted

lol.. Who runs the bid cities again?

Hint - Not Republicans

Amazing how the school systems improve once you hit the burbs...

 

[Scerpi]

Definitely. It's going great so far, with the biggest spenders having the worst performance and lowest literacy rates. NY and DC having higher per student spending than any country in the world with 72% and 67% literacy rates clearly means dump even more money into them so they can hire more $200k diversity officers and administrators.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...1774b89a-4015-11ed-ad1d-a37426722af4.amp.html
Analysis: As schools approach $30,000 per student in spending, performance plunges

NYC Will Spend $38,000 Per Pupil Next Year.

Public School Spending Per Student Up 5%, Biggest Increase in 11 Years

@Blayt7hh As I was saying...

 

[woodguyatl]

If kiea are doing poorly in school the fi st place to look for the cause is parents.

 

[woodguyatl]

lol.. Who runs the bid cities again?

Hint - Not Republicans

Amazing how the school systems improve once you hit the burbs...

And go to.shitbagaim once reach rural areas. It's almost like funding and parental involvement are important factors.

Also, Democrat run suburbs tend to have excellent schools. It not really a political thing. It's economics.

 

[kflo]

So you think math is racist and that kids should be taught there are unlimited genders instead of learning how to read?

math isn't racist and the time spent on gender overall rounds to 0%.

 

[cooks1]

My local schools are failing because cheap ass people won't pass a single school levy. Then they wonder why young families move out.

Agreed

It is truly bizarre right now. Both my daughters (15 and 10) go to school in St Johns County. Which is the top ranked school district in the state of Florida.

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-school-districts/s/florida/

The problems here have nothing whatsoever to do with the manure TS was spouting about gender questioning or CRT crap. It's teacher driven. We simply can't get or keep teachers. Teacher pay for the best school district in the state is below the state average, which is already the 4th lowest in the nation.

There was not a single week this year that my oldest did not spend multiple periods in the gym with hundreds of other kids for 'independent study'. Independent study is what they call it when they have no teacher, or substitute teacher available to teach the class. So they just send everyone to the gym. Some days she would spend 3 periods in the gym for independent study.

When I was a kid, there was never a single period in grades K-12 where neither a teacher or substitute was available to teach a class and I got sent somewhere else. The very concept of that was so foreign to me that my daughter had to explain it to me 3 times before I fully understood what was going on.

St Johns County is the 3rd wealthiest county in the state and people would gladly contribute more for teachers. It boggles the mind.

 

[jk7707]

Definitely. It's going great so far, with the biggest spenders having the worst performance and lowest literacy rates. NY and DC having higher per student spending than any country in the world with 72% and 67% literacy rates clearly means dump even more money into them so they can hire more $200k diversity officers and administrators.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...1774b89a-4015-11ed-ad1d-a37426722af4.amp.html
Analysis: As schools approach $30,000 per student in spending, performance plunges

NYC Will Spend $38,000 Per Pupil Next Year.

Public School Spending Per Student Up 5%, Biggest Increase in 11 Years

Urban school districts have the toughest task when it comes to education. They're dealing with a huge percentage of kids coming from impoverished backgrounds and that is a huge factor in education outcomes.

Increasing funding to making teaching a more attractive financially and build state of the art facilities for them to work would go a long way in most places.

What would your solution be?

 

[HomeCheese]

More like 40 years of Republican policy is finally getting the results they wanted

When someone like DeVos is in charge of the education department then what do you expect. Maybe some of the blame also lies with families and parents having to work harder and stress more than they ever have since the depression. These education statistics tell me that families are struggling.

 

[kflo]

Yes. Teachers have unlimited time to cover all topics. So any time spent on non essential learning topics has no impact.

You're kind of unintelligent aren't you?

again, you guys have made up this idea that material time is spent on gender topics.

but lots of time is spent on "non-essential" learning. very little of it is gender.

 

[DoctorNick]

Our property taxes keep going up. But, our school district is cutting staff. Our funding is distributed by student enrollment.

Our town has become too expensive for young families. So, they either move out or no longer can afford buying a house in the first place.

As a result, when property value goes up, property taxes for up. But, our property taxes are distributed elsewhere. So, our schools aren't getting the funds.

I hope we allow more home building.

If the money went to our schools I would be more than willing to

Agreed

It is truly bizarre right now. Both my daughters (15 and 10) go to school in St Johns County. Which is the top ranked school district in the state of Florida.

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-school-districts/s/florida/

The problems here have nothing whatsoever to do with the manure TS was spouting about gender questioning or CRT crap. It's teacher driven. We simply can't get or keep teachers. Teacher pay for the best school district in the state is below the state average, which is already the 4th lowest in the nation.

There was not a single week this year that my oldest did not spend multiple periods in the gym with hundreds of other kids for 'independent study'. Independent study is what they call it when they have no teacher, or substitute teacher available to teach the class. So they just send everyone to the gym. Some days she would spend 3 periods in the gym for independent study.

St Johns County is the 3rd wealthiest county in the state and people would gladly contribute more for teachers. It boggles the mind.

That's so heartbreaking to hear. Kids are literally our future and they are getting screwed over by this. I'm going to research what our teachers are paid, because we live in a wealthy town by Ohio standards. I know that a lot of our school buildings are over 50 years old, and they just built a new football stadium for a team that wins maybe 3 games per year.

 

[My Spot]

Only took the very first reply for some chud to go full partisan. <Lmaoo>

 

[cooks1]

When someone like DeVos is in charge of the education department then what do you expect. Maybe some of the blame also lies with families and parents having to work harder and stress more than they ever have since the depression. These education statistics tell me that families are struggling.

Agreed. On the other side of the coin, I feel like teachers have been severely disempowered and shackled both in terms of teaching and maintaining order in their classes. And at the same time students and parents have far too much leeway and sway in terms of what they can get away with.

They should not allow cell phones in classes at all.

 

[SummerStriker]

There must be a cultural component to being good at math. My 4-year-old can add and subtract with her fingers, and she has a bunch of small number addition memorized. She has it because I play learning / dice games with her, and praise her for knowing / remembering math facts. If a kid gets to school and doesn't have that background, it has got to be way harder to learn math and not be forever behind.

Same with reading. If you talk to and read to your kid a lot, they will have a big vocabulary. Then, when they learn to read, all they have to do is associate a word with the letters. If a kid doesn't even know the fucking word, they aren't going to have brain power for remembering the letters because they have to focus on the new word.

Having the leisure, money, education, and interest to educate your kids yourself makes a big difference on what they will get out of school.

Most of these kids don't have anyone fucking teaching them anything at home.

 

[freakroor]

Edgelord!!!

i’m just living my truth

 

[LeonardoBjj]

But at least the kids are being taught to question their gender as they're browbeat about how math is racist and that their teachers have more authority over them than their parents do.

From Axios:
American students' test scores in math and reading got significantly worse last year — continuing a decade-long freefall.

Driving the news: The decline in math scores last year was the biggest in the past 50 years, according to newly released federal data.

- That's explain how Tom King got work as a comic-book writer.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Good luck being a public school teacher in America.

 

[HomeCheese]

There must be a cultural component to being good at math. My 4-year-old can add and subtract with her fingers, and she has a bunch of small number addition memorized. She has it because I play learning / dice games with her, and praise her for knowing / remembering math facts. If a kid gets to school and doesn't have that background, it has got to be way harder to learn math and not be forever behind.

Same with reading. If you talk to and read to your kid a lot, they will have a big vocabulary. Then, when they learn to read, all they have to do is associate a word with the letters. If a kid doesn't even know the fucking word, they aren't going to have brain power for remembering the letters because they have to focus on the new word.

Having the leisure, money, education, and interest to educate your kids yourself makes a big difference on what they will get out of school.

Most of these kids don't have anyone fucking teaching them anything at home.

I agree, education starts at home. I think families are under more stress and pressure than ever before and education is one of the ways this shows up. It also doesn't help that a large percentage of the population has decided they are smarter that physicians and PHD's and constantly devalue higher education.

 

[Fluffernutter]

Urban school districts have the toughest task when it comes to education. They're dealing with a huge percentage of kids coming from impoverished backgrounds and that is a huge factor in education outcomes.

The same exact statement can be said for rural school district as well.

 

[nostradumbass]

Urban school districts have the toughest task when it comes to education. They're dealing with a huge percentage of kids coming from impoverished backgrounds and that is a huge factor in education outcomes.

Increasing funding to making teaching a more attractive financially and build state of the art facilities for them to work would go a long way in most places.

What would your solution be?

$38k/student isn't enough? How much more should they increase it? $60k/student, $80k/student?

You at least admitted what the problem is, or at least who it is. It's not money, because plenty of other places have far worse poverty, spend far less and have far better outcomes. Just point out the places with the worst education outcomes, and I'll show you the places with most single mothers.

How about they take their existing funding, cut 95% of the administrators and non-teaching staff and spread that money to the teachers? Would help some, not entirely, because if you ask most teachers, they'd still rather work at a suburban school full of kids with 2 parents for $60k than one full of "inner city youths" with single moms for $85k.

The welfare state already ripped apart the black family, and now rather admit they fucked up, they're just leaning into blaming everybody else and lowering the bar, getting rid of advanced classes, and telling them it's not their fault, it's muh white supremacy's fault that your kids can't read, join gangs, get pregnant commit felonies at 13. You keep up the good work, we'll crack down on those terrorist parents who dare question the piss poor job we're doing, and we'll just raise taxes again and hope for the best.

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

Enrollment in algebra dropped from 34% of 13 year olds in 2012 to 24% in 2023.

This may be due to 13 year olds no longer given the option of being allowed to enroll in an algebra class.

Our district no longer allows kids who exceed at grade level math to enroll in a higher level math class. Instead, kids at all math levels have to stay in the same classroom.

Therefore, 13 year olds no longer have the option to be in an algebra class. They must wait until they are older.

The schools have been getting worse and worse every year. The math policy you describe has an unofficial name. It's called the "No Child Gets Ahead" policy.