Public health hero Gov. Andrew Cuomo to receive Emmy for his Covid response

[Hadron90]

Wow. This is incredible. And well deserved. Andrew Cuomo's leadership during the coronavirus was impeccable. In a country with a Covid death rate of 76 deaths per 100k, his state managed to be second in the nation, with a whooping 176 deaths per 100k...only about 2.5x the average of his country. Another way to look at that number would to be imagine that if New York were its own country, it would have had by far the highest death rate of any country in the world. It takes real leadership and perseverance to kill that many grandmas. As someone who really hates the elderly, I applaud him.

 

[TheChosenKing]

 

[whippersnapper]

Didn't he preside over the state with the most deaths in the nation?

 

[Queen B]

Hes the only Governor to control the virus, keep New York at 3% or less.

 

[Headkicktoleg]

I assume he's getting an Emmy because the story of the colossal failure of NYC will make a great mini series.

 

[brother mouzone]

Since he did such a good job we should remove New York state statistics from the rest of the united states for purposes of calculating per capita deaths. It's skewing the data and making republican states look better than they really have done.

 

[Falsedawn]

Wow. This is incredible. And well deserved. Andrew Cuomo's leadership during the coronavirus was impeccable. In a country with a Covid death rate of 76 deaths per 100k, his state managed to be second in the nation, with a whooping 176 deaths per 100k...only about 2.5x the average of his country. Another way to look at that number would to be imagine that if New York were its own country, it would have had by far the highest death rate of any country in the world. It takes real leadership and perseverance to kill that many grandmas. As someone who really hates the elderly, I applaud him.

9 of the top 10 ranked centers by population density are New York City and its metropolitan areas. Given that tidbit, and understanding that our response to the coronavirus has been affecting population density at smaller scales, only 2.5x the national average isn't all that terrible.

If he hadn't done anything like some people advocated, 2.5x the average would be the least of his worries.

Edit, it's actually 9 of the top 10. I didn't realize 10 was NYC too. 9 is Los Angeles.

 

[Seano]

Hes the only Governor to control the virus, keep New York at 3% or less.

His watch was responsible for like 15% of Covid deaths in the nation.

 

[Scheme]

9 of the top 10 ranked centers by population density are New York City and its metropolitan areas. Given that tidbit, and understanding that our response to the coronavirus has been affecting population density at smaller scales, only 2.5x the national average isn't all that terrible.

If he hadn't done anything like some people advocated, 2.5x the average would be the least of his worries.

Edit, it's actually 9 of the top 10. I didn't realize 10 was NYC too. 9 is Los Angeles.

COVID-19 death rate does not correlate at all with population density. So having that high of a death rate is still inexcusable.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-19-death-rate-vs-population-density

Maybe his mandate that nursing homes (the most vulnerable) had to accept COVID-19 positive patients back to free up hospital beds was the cause of such a high death rate?

 

[sherdogwantedtonamemekiki]

Oh cool! Politicians can get Emmy's now? I want a Golden Globe, or maybe the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

[Falsedawn]

COVID-19 death rate does not correlate at all with population density. So having that high of a death rate is still inexcusable.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-19-death-rate-vs-population-density

Transmission rate absolutely does, however. By the simple virtue of having more transmissions, you're going to have more deaths. Whether that's notable per-capita is irrelevant, raw numbers rule the day here.

 

[essie]

That's a joke. He did a really poor job handling the virus but a really good job at talking about it.

 

[Headkicktoleg]

Transmission rate absolutely does, however. By the simple virtue of having more transmissions, you're going to have more deaths. Whether that's notable per-capita is irrelevant, raw numbers rule the day here.

By raw numbers NYC was one of the worst places in the world for Covid

 

[Hadron90]

Transmission rate absolutely does, however. By the simple virtue of having more transmissions, you're going to have more deaths. Whether that's notable per-capita is irrelevant, raw numbers rule the day here.

Sorry, but as he already posted, that just does not show in the actual data. Here is a John Hopkin's study:
https://www.jhsph.edu/news/news-rel...-is-linked-to-lower-covid-19-death-rates.html

According to John Hopkins, you don't see higher infection rates in cities, and you actually expect to see lower death rates. And a more recent Scientific American article:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/...ity-does-not-doom-cities-to-pandemic-dangers/

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Not saying shit until @Queen B states his opinion on this.

 

[Krixes]

How is this real life. This sick fuck put covid patients into senior citizen facilities and killed so many elderly.

 

[Falsedawn]

Sorry, but as he already posted, that just does not show in the actual data. Here is a John Hopkin's study:
https://www.jhsph.edu/news/news-rel...-is-linked-to-lower-covid-19-death-rates.html

According to John Hopkins, you don't see higher infection rates in cities, and you actually expect to see lower death rates.

Actually it does.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7439635/

Here's a study conducted in Algeria, where population centers don't have the healthcare outcomes of say, a NYC. Clustered population centers experienced correlated increases in cases of COVID-19.

Here's a similar study, but for new york.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7439635/

The findings of this study indicate that county density results in a reduction in both the infection rate and death rate of COVID-19 pandemic, after controlling for the larger context of the metropolitan area and other confounding factors. This is in contrast to public assumptions and the U.S news media that have been largely based on the simple correlation between density and the infection rates of COVID-19 and also based on the observations about the spread and severity of the COVID-19 pandemic in New York City. These findings suggest that the relationship between density and the pandemic is more complex than a simple correlation. Density increases the concentration of people and facilitates person-to-person contacts, but density also could lead to better health care infrastructure that is more prepared to respond to pandemics. More research is needed to investigate further the impacts of density on the success of public health measures in fighting pandemics.

If you can read, that conclusion states that despite simple correlations that should have led to NY getting hammered, it was actually their robust healthcare infrastructure that blunted the spread of the pandemic. As noted, density facilitates person-to-person contact, subject to clustering that people in cities are noted to do.

So yes, the data actually does show that population density does lead to greater transmission rates, we just have the healthcare infrastructure to deal with it.

 

[HockeyBjj]

Hes the only Governor to control the virus, keep New York at 3% or less.

He killed off everyone susceptible to it in the opening months

brilliant strategy really

 

[Hadron90]

Actually it does.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7439635/

Here's a study conducted in Algeria, where population centers don't have the healthcare outcomes of say, a NYC. Clustered population centers experienced correlated increases in cases of COVID-19.

Here's a similar study, but for new york.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7439635/



If you can read, that conclusion states that despite simple correlations that should have led to NY getting hammered, it was actually their robust healthcare infrastructure that blunted the spread of the pandemic. As noted, density facilitates person-to-person contact, subject to clustering that people in cities are noted to do.

New York did get hammered. One of the highest death rates in the world. They are the outliar. Almost every other city in the world handled it fine.

So yes, the data actually does show that population density does lead to greater transmission rates, we just have the healthcare infrastructure to deal with it.

Obviously not. Since you have one of the highest death rates in the world.

 

[sherdogwantedtonamemekiki]

Not saying shit until @Queen B states his opinion on this.

^ He already did. ^